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Elo Hell is... well Elo Hell

hsumis1ove··2 votes·749 views

So I was doing fine in bronze 2 then some trolls/afks landed me in bronze 5. Since then, i havent been able to get out due to more feeders, even when i end up winning lane (once won a katarina vs diana lane, but my team fed and of course when they grouped up we ended up losing and another time, when we had an amazing alistar and i, vayne got 5 kills in 10 minutes and the rest of our team fed and we lost.). I am a vayne main, almost strictly vayne, my ashe is decent and am hoping to expand to kalista soon. I have figured that vayne relies on her team too much for peel and initiation and am going to move on to someone like tryndamere or shyvana. I plan to farm almost all game and then splitpush top hard. According to cowsep, split pushing works really well in low elo because all anyone wants to do is fight. Towers can be taken very easily. Im looking for a splitpush build for shyvana, tryndamere, and master yi. Something that gives then damage and allows them to take down turrets easily. I plan to use this till at least mid silver, maybe gold.

BTW can someone point me to some good fiora/ riven guides, ive been struggling with them recently feeding garens and dariuses. Thx

20 Comments

Dreadlocks2 votes

Shyvana item 1415 item 3153 item 3111 item 3742 item 3065 item 3075 Tryndamere item 3153 item 3087 item 3111 item 3031 item 3142 item 3026 MasterYiitem 1415 item 3153 item 3124 item 3087 item 3031 item 3006

Colgate Minuette1 votes

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Shyvana item 1415 item 3153 item 3111 item 3742 item 3065 item 3075 Tryndamere item 3153 item 3087 item 3111 item 3031 item 3142 item 3026 MasterYiitem 1415 item 3153 item 3124 item 3087 item 3031 item 3006

You are literal cancer for doing this.... not that I'm gonna try this or anything that would be just.. DON'T LOOK AT MY MATCH HISTORY IT'S TIME TO GET SILVER 2 item 3070

Dreadlocks1 votes

I don't get it lol.

Colgate Minuette1 votes

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I don't get it lol.

I'm saying playing champions like Yi and Trynd is a super cheap way to climb elo cause they're so broken. Especially trynd like wtf is that bullshit ult?

EndlessSorcerer1 votes

It's personal preference, but I prefer something along the following lines for Shyvana.

item 3047 or item 3111, item 1403 or item 1415, item 3068 item 3748 item 3065, item 3075

Loses a little sustain, but your damage is pretty similar (if a bit more AoE-focused) and you are far more durable.

Getting a bit of early armor is also pretty nice for towerdiving and Sunfire Cape works quite well since you often want to sit in the middle of the enemy team anyways.

Dreadlocks1 votes

I'd say the lifesteal from botrk makes my build more durable, :) but to each their own.

EndlessSorcerer1 votes

It does somewhat, but I find that lack of health (especially if I rush it immediately) leaves me pretty squishy in the mid-game. While I excel at dueling, i can be bursted in teamfights.

I find that Sunfire Cape provides good mid-game damage and durability for skirmishes/teamfights and lets me tower-dive more safely. After that, Titanic Hydra provides enough damage for me to take it.

But yeah, it's preference.

Dreadlocks1 votes

Yeah you make a good point that i think many rookie shyvanas make. If one is going to rush botrk after devourer, you are very squishy. So unless you are super fed, or you plan to split push, a defensive item is not a bad idea after devourer at all.

BluePolarizer1 votes

lifesteal on Shyvana only gives you maybe ~200 more HP to work with if you can autoattack and nothing if you can't. Remember it's 10% lifesteal lol. You have to do 2000 damage from autoattacks to get 200 HP. If you can do 2000 autoattack damage as Shyvana you've already won.

Dreadlocks1 votes

Hey lets not forget the Active + Shyv Q xD

shyv2 votes

if you want some real advice on how to get out of bronze the only thing i got for u is tough love...... elo hell isnt a thing. the ranking system works fine & if you work hard you will eventually climb because you gain more lp for a win than you lose for a loss. in general though, if you want tips these would be the main things to focus on

  1. not playing riven
  2. farming better and learning how to harass without missing cs
  3. learn to support (with the exception of support mains, most people in bronze i know dont know how)
  4. buy wards! always

not trying to be condescending or anything, you can definitely climb out if you work for it and learn your champs well. i would suggest mastering all your champs in normal draft games before taking them into ranked however. analyze what champs you're winning with the most, and which champs win lane but lose game. i mained syndra for almost an entire year before i realized im just.......... never winning games with her lol.

good luck and have fun! dont give up just because of a few bad games

Penguin Eclipse2 votes

Elo hell or Bronze has actually become my favorite tier of all. Anything goes. Comebacks are possible. It is far more enjoyable than high tiers right now. I hope to sink at least a couple smurfs to Bronze next season.

TheDabberBoy1 votes

Heimerdinger item 3157 item 3151 item 3116 item 3001 item 3089 item 3020 Kite, kill 3, take tower, repeat and win

hsumis1ove1 votes

trynd, yi, and shyvana are champions like anyone else. It's not like i can make 1 v 3 or even 4 with vayne unless i am ridiculously fed or they enemy team is the dumbest sack of vegetables behind a keyboard. Besides they can be pretty easy to counter. Just get someone like annie or some high cc person and destroy them. yi and trynd are squishy. I have beat tryndamers and yis like that in the past.

BluePolarizer1 votes

lol you wanna see what real elo hell is?

bronze is not the real elo hell. If you were diamond, you'd be able to carry.

Plat is the true elo hell where if your team collectively become vegetables and don't listen to calls, you lose and there is absolutely not a thing you can do about it since 5 competent plats vs. 4 boosted silvers and 1 challenger will still win.

hsumis1ove1 votes

lol in bronze i had a voli ping all of us to lvl 3 drag. we told him not to, but we went in anyway and all died cuz the enemy team jumped on us. Later that voli, ran straight into an ashe to solo her and he was at like 10 percent health. He died again. Then i had a veigar support and fiora mid.

LiveYiOrDieHard1 votes

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Then i had a veigar support and fiora mid.

Lol neither of those is a big deal.

BluePolarizer1 votes

those aren't too bad.

You want to see what PLAT ragers are like?

J4 top: pings enemy laner 500 times before I finish red buff (I'm starting red) and tells me to "gank you useless fucker". I go to finish my blue. He dies.

At 7 minutes in, he (as a feeding j4 top) tries to take blue instead of allowing me or mid to take it. I ask "leave blue please" and he keeps attacking it. To prevent him from feeding enemy top the blue, I smite it - just a jungler smiting a camp in his own jungle, hardly a massive offense. He says "you aren't winning this you useless shit" and right clicks enemy fountain, repeating every time on respawn.

optimalroat1 votes

A month or two ago, I would've probably made a thread that is similar to this one, I made the fatal decision to jump into ranked the day after I hit 30, which landed me in bronze 3, and after that, I went on a huge loosing spree until I was bumped down to bronze 5 with 0lp.

After that I felt like I couldn't win any games, because the enemy team was so much better, or maybe my team just sucked. But then I found some comfort champions, champions that could make or break a team-fight, and change the game, after that, I went on a winning spree, and I'm back in bronze 3, after about a month.

The point in what I'm saying is, yes, you'll inevitably get a pretty bad team, it happens, or maybe you'll be against a better comp. But in my experience, the enemy is as likely to get a bad team, as you are. It's a gamble, really.

Also, if you're going on a losing spree, just take a break, play some ARAM games, take a shower, then get back into ranked.

LOLSNAP1 votes

if your bronze you need to be there i proved it i lvl a smurf lost all promos to get him to b5 just to see if i can carry my way out and i carryed my self out of both b5 and s5 in 2 days all the way to gold

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