Dynamic Queue Doesn't Make Games Less Toxic (Please Bring Back Soloq)

Gene Freakz··59 votes·1,413 views

This is not a scientific approach because I am just speaking from my own experience; the only constant in the equation is me. That being said, I have seen no difference in the toxicity levels after the implementation of dynamic queue. What have I seen? Much longer queue times and a much larger gap in mmr leading to ridiculously lopsided games. Many people in my queues troll before the game begins and say that they no longer care about ranked. Premades whom I play against routinely show poor sportsmanship by arrogantly boasting when they win. If I do anything wrong, I automatically get flamed by my team; there is never any encouragement or support.

No, I am not bronze, but I guess you could call me a casual. I have played about 500 games and float around mid gold. Let me be clear, I am not saying the toxicity levels are worse than they have been. They just haven't changed. It's not necessarily Riot's fault. It might have more to do with the players themselves. I would really like soloq back because games are still toxic and now more random than they have been before. Soloq is random yes, but it is a random batch of solo players of similar mmr. Dynamic queue adds another element of randomness to the mix by throwing team mmr, legal boosting, and a large mmr gap between players to relax queue times.

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Troll for Trump9 votes

This season just brewed more resentment than usual, with all the sudden quick changes.

There's a lot more things that are broken in the recent patches.

At least they are trying to fix some of them (underwhelming rages, devourer cheese)

leaugesbane1 votes

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This season just brewed more resentment than usual, with all the sudden quick changes.

There's a lot more things that are broken in the recent patches.

At least they are trying to fix some of them (underwhelming rages, devourer cheese)

i heard last season did the same. more people are catching on now its no longer the omg your toxic opinion even if its still not the popular opnion its not looking so ridiculous now.

Troll for Trump2 votes

The "worst" of last season was the juggernaut update. That was the major change, this season is riddled with them.

Tufio4 votes

well, off course the chat is less toxic, since premade just never use it...

leaugesbane1 votes

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well, off course the chat is less toxic, since premade just never use it...

lol XD im sorry but this made me laugh.

i bet money riot lyte thinks thats his handy work when it really isnt lawl smart guys are usually to dumb to see whats in front of them

shyv4 votes

i don't know about you guys but dynamic queue has made me a LOT more toxic.

i used to be the kind of person that would rage at people just for playing badly, even if they couldn't help it, if they just weren't as skilled as the enemy laner and felt bad about it, i would yell at them. so, obviously, my main ended up getting a 2 week ban

but after that i genuinely reformed. i haven't been punished on my main since. not even a chat restriction. a few warnings here and there. i still go off when people int feed but who doesn't.

but i don't play ranked on my main. i only play it on my smurf so i can play with friends (because all my friends are bronze and riot took away ranked teams, thanks!) and my smurf has had already 30+ chat restrictions and a 20 minute LPQ

i don't know i find that interesting :^)

NORD MASTER KING3 votes

[{quoted}](name=Gene Freakz,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=P7PzvAAQ,comment-id=,timestamp=2016-05-03T04:10:03.103+0000)

This is not a scientific approach because I am just speaking from my own experience; the only constant in the equation is me. That being said, I have seen no difference in the toxicity levels after the implementation of dynamic queue. What have I seen? Much longer queue times and a much larger gap in mmr leading to ridiculously lopsided games. Many people in my queues troll before the game begins and say that they no longer care about ranked. Premades whom I play against routinely show poor sportsmanship by arrogantly boasting when they win. If I do anything wrong, I automatically get flamed by my team; there is never any encouragement or support.

No, I am not bronze, but I guess you could call me a casual. I have played about 500 games and float around mid gold. Let me be clear, I am not saying the toxicity levels are worse than they have been. They just haven't changed. It's not necessarily Riot's fault. It might have more to do with the players themselves. I would really like soloq back because games are still toxic and now more random than they have been before. Soloq is random yes, but it is a random batch of solo players of similar mmr. Dynamic queue adds another element of randomness to the mix by throwing team mmr, legal boosting, and a large mmr gap between players to relax queue times.

I'm seeing more toxicity than ever. Plat is full of silvers and golds who don't belong in that tier because they got carried by a premade. These silvers and golds really like to flame and rage when they face an actual plat player and feed their asses off.

I was diamond last season, got there by playing solo. Now I can't get past plat 2, not because I'm playing worse, but because I'm not playing with or against people that are actually plat.

Also 4 man premades being able to surrender a game should not be possible. You have that happen to you just once, a 4 man premade surrenders a winnable game because I don't know, reasons. Just see how that affects your "toxicity".

barbarianskull3 votes

there is never any encouragement or support.

Very true there aren't many supports. Kappa

Fovere2 votes

DQ isn't necessarily going to make things more toxic on average, just more extreme since they will often share characteristics in terms of game skill, personality/attitude, internet reliability, you name it.

Game are simply less stable and with respect to behavior its a lot easier to contain a single "toxic" player with you have 4 randoms on your team rather than 3 of his friends.

leaugesbane2 votes

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DQ isn't necessarily going to make things more toxic on average, just more extreme since they will often share characteristics in terms of game skill, personality/attitude, internet reliability, you name it.

Game are simply less stable and with respect to behavior its a lot easier to contain a single "toxic" player with you have 4 randoms on your team rather than 3 of his friends.

it was never about behavior its about the ability to have fun and it just isnt there less you steam roll every game from what ive seen and read a handful of bad apples ages ago ruined the bunch and lead us to the point we are at now

people who are having fun are less likely to rage where as people who are feeling powerless due to bad teams are more likely to rage if they dont get some sort of outlit. they removed those out lits from what ive heard which would be things like adc tf or something that would allow you to do fairly well but was interesting enough to take your mind of the bad game.

just my 2 cents

Pink Tentacles1 votes

As a sliver 5 player, I don't know if my opinion holds any weight, but I've noticed less toxic behavior in premades, since there's an actual shot caller in the group, not just four other randos who are only concerned about laning phase.

Fazuzu1 votes

there is less toxicity because even if they are steamrolled by a team that doesnt suck and NEED 3 others guy to win that match, they will beat a team that sucks a little less than themselves or is made up of 3 to 5 solo players in most of their other matches so they will never become too frustrated and ranked is still fun for them. thats why.

Osaka 7781 votes

I know know you feel. That is exactly what I felt like 2 months ago. I had to quit LoL. And the only way to make Riot see its mistake, is to stop playing LoL unfortunately. The more people leave, the longer the queue times are... making the system to widen the MMR, making the games more awful, forcing people to quit.... Riot is too prideful and arrogant.

PbJMpP4xzk1 votes

Amen preach it because its the true, but oh wait some phucktards will come over here and say stuff like everything is fine league havent been better than that at any time given because teamgame logic bla bla bla dumb kids.

Tentacle Love1 votes

Nothing inside the game is going to make the game any less toxic.

Toxicity comes from the players.

leaugesbane1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Love Tentacle,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=P7PzvAAQ,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2016-05-04T18:04:05.303+0000)

Nothing inside the game is going to make the game any less toxic.

Toxicity comes from the players.

untrue if the game was fun then people would be lesstoxic instead its increadbly frstrating i just swaped from bots to blind pick ik exactly why my buddy quit now

Viktor with item 3302 20 mins in cuase it was pointed out you need a gold item to properly supp proves two things

you have no fuckign clue how to support

  • 20mins in after its pointed out ? really?
  • Viktor doesnt use item 3302 he uses item 3301 oritem 3303

and b you have no idea how to play viktor when your items up to that point are item 1001 item 3197 try item 3069 item 3196 item 1001
into item 3116 item 3069 item 3020 item 3198 you poke is good enough that you can slow enemies peel enmies and give ms to allies its

the adc job to win lane its the supports job is to keep people alive so they can do their thing

leaugesbane1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Gene Freakz,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=P7PzvAAQ,comment-id=,timestamp=2016-05-03T04:10:03.103+0000)

This is not a scientific approach because I am just speaking from my own experience; the only constant in the equation is me. That being said, I have seen no difference in the toxicity levels after the implementation of dynamic queue. What have I seen? Much longer queue times and a much larger gap in mmr leading to ridiculously lopsided games. Many people in my queues troll before the game begins and say that they no longer care about ranked. Premades whom I play against routinely show poor sportsmanship by arrogantly boasting when they win. If I do anything wrong, I automatically get flamed by my team; there is never any encouragement or support.

No, I am not bronze, but I guess you could call me a casual. I have played about 500 games and float around mid gold. Let me be clear, I am not saying the toxicity levels are worse than they have been. They just haven't changed. It's not necessarily Riot's fault. It might have more to do with the players themselves. I would really like soloq back because games are still toxic and now more random than they have been before. Soloq is random yes, but it is a random batch of solo players of similar mmr. Dynamic queue adds another element of randomness to the mix by throwing team mmr, legal boosting, and a large mmr gap between players to relax queue times.

any body with a single brain cell knows you speak the truth

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