As I am rising in the ranks (now in plat) I am beginning to see the folly of Dynamic Queue

Gene Freakz··68 votes·3,316 views

I can't even imagine how bad it is in Diamond and above right now. I really didn't have that many bad experiences in gold and silver, but already into my 4 games in plat I have seen some awful matchmaking. Riot said they wanted to make fair games, but I have not seen that so far in Plat. I played with a premade 4 and that was an incredibly unfun experience (everybody's rank was relatively similar). And now I just played against a team that had a duo bot and a trio jung, mid, and top (our team just had a duo mid and adc). As you probably guessed it, our team was crushed. It was clear the team had better synergy and communication. I am not ragging on them for playing with a premade, I am angry about the fact that I was paired up against a completely premade team. Although they weren't a 5, they were a 2+3. What does Riot do to "balance" out this issue. They say, "Here, take a couple of D5s that are at 0 lp because they have lost a majority of their last 20 games and are probably on tilt. You need to fix this Riot. I hope this hasn't set the stage for what climbing is going to be like from now on, but I kind of think it has. As a solo player, I feel unwelcome to the game.

39 Comments

Buff Jax please15 votes

Same...I am in Platinum III and the matches with 3 or 4 man premades are always decided by who has the better premade. I don't think it affects my ranking but these matches are just incredibly unfun to play. You have literally 0 influence on the outcome of the game unless you either feed super hard or carry like shit.

BluePolarizer8 votes

I fed something like 1-9 on Garen once in a plat 3 game.

Didn't matter because the score was already 20-9. I was able to KS a few kills later with ult.

It was hilarious how bad I did yet I still got carried by premade 4.

GayFluffyUnicorn9 votes

Enjoy. Just lost both my promos today. Another nail in the coffin of this slowly becoming a shitty game. As soon as i hit the mmr to play with "diamonds" it's a lottery. I win two games with ease. Got to promo, first game is just a joke, one feed/afk (the cait in my team in my malph game). Crushed the next game. Start my third promo game: get a riven jungle, heimer otp (1200 games on this champ alone and still trash) and riven with cait just afks after a few minutes. Nice first promo of the day! Win another two awful games of getting constantly ganked whenever you head back to lane.
Get into your promo and you get another troll (my viktor game, just look at soraka). Already during champselect she "threatened" to troll if someone has less than 10 games on his champ, since all my mains got banned and i didn't know what to pick against swain i just picked viktor. So far only had one game this season on him but still ahd mastery 5 on him (played him last season pretty often). So she looked up op.gg and started to run down mid. And even tried to justify herself: i told you i troll i don't play with scrubs who only have one game on the champ. Looked her up----> Diamond 5, 0LP and 49% winrate. She was silver the last two seasons and now still in diamond with a negative winrate, which heavily implies she got boosted there and is now mad because she's too bad for diamond. And another round of promo lost.

TL;DR: Plat sucks, full of boosted animals and "DynQ abuser". Have fun.

GayFluffyUnicorn3 votes

Oh i forgot to add: Ofc she hasn't been banned. After reporting her i received a message someone has been punished but i looked her up afterwards and she was already in another game. Thank u riot. Keep banning "toxic" people and leave players who run down mid to feed 0/11 alone. Also let all the boosted players sit in their elo it is not like they are ruining games even worse than flamers (atleast i can mute them) and keep dedicated players from rising in elo with your shitty promo system and then cry about long Q times in a higher elo when you don't allow people to rank up in this chesspool full of shit called "high plat".

Sythriel Draken4 votes

didn't you know? Riot doesn't give a shit about feeders.. they will however ban you the moment you hurt someone's feelings tho.

Magical Zoe3 votes

Why were you down voted...this is so true.

GayFluffyUnicorn2 votes

Maybe because i'm not polite enough in my wording? Maybe because they don't believe me but just look at my viktor game and the soraka in my team. This was the first time the enemy team didn'T make fun of us but just said: get banned u lil shit. The enemy team was pretty upset afterwards. Someone even recorded the game and send it to the support so i just hope something happens afterwards... Maybe the report notification i received was from a former game i dunno.

GayFluffyUnicorn3 votes

So true. I'm all for banning really toxic people. Especially the "tilty" ones who start flaming in champselect because u picked a certain champ or something. But most flamers atleast try their best to win and as i said u can mute them. But all those people sitting in an higher elo where they don't belong to ruin my games even worse should be treated the same way. How is it possible that someone with 46% winrate still sits in diamond and plays against plat 3s-1 ? They should already be back in gold if you lose THAT much games. With a 46% winrate i would be in gold 5 right now or even worse.

Sythriel Draken1 votes

i have a 50% win rate with over 1k ranked games played so far this season.. I should be back to gold by now, but no. I go on a 7 game in streak, and then the moment I get back to silver 4. riot throws intentional fucking god damn feeders and afkers and drops me into a 5 game loss streak.. Dynamic queue needs to fucking go and riot needs to pull their god damn fucking heads out of their fucking asses and change it now, or at least give us solo queuers something special like "the highest rank you've achieved this season is your rank at the end" cause this is fucking god damn bullshit how much riot is shoving dynamic queue down our face..

it's fine for normal games, but not for ranked where MMR matters..

GayFluffyUnicorn1 votes

I'm going and up and down between plat 3 and 1. Diamond is a border unbreakable. Either you get stomped by master/challenger smurfs who are bored or you get the boosted shits sitting in diamond 5 0lp.

FortisDominus5 votes

welcome to plat. Home of the boosted silver players and the disgusting 4 man and 3 man premades. Its the reason i quit playing ranked

After i lost promos to plat 3, 5 times. i got sick of ranked. Yes 5 times

GayFluffyUnicorn1 votes

Plat 1 back to plat 3. Now plat 2 again and lost two promos in one day to plat 1. I know your feeling...

ClatoVerataNicto4 votes

Simple solution, stop playing dynamic ranked. If people stop in droves, then some sort of action will have to happen.

Jesus is Savior1 votes

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Simple solution, stop playing dynamic ranked. If people stop in droves, then some sort of action will have to happen.

The casuals won't quit though, so that really won't do anything.

PiVoRx4 votes

D5 has become a wall impossible to get through as solo player.

Left Hook Larry1 votes

I don't know why my LP gains have gotten fucked up since reaching D5. I have good win rates but barely get lp per win

Kedren Aderac3 votes

Yup, kinda sucks the motivation to climb doesn't it?

This system was designed for casuals and never meant for competitive gaming ... and it only gets worse the higher you go. There's no point to play Ranked during this season anymore, and Ranks in general won't mean a thing because of DQ anyway.

Bobloser35552 votes

Trust me I can already feel it in low silver.

LaughingStapler2 votes

One of the biggest myths is that fair matches mean 50% winrate. Winning or losing half the games but feeling like you have no influence in those matches since they're just snowballed in either direction is still terrible.

JerulEon2 votes

Same. Riot does try to compensate for premades by giving them better skilled players but I hate it regardless. I don't like being cheated out of my LP -- either by losing to a better premade or having a feeding duo. It's just awful.

GayFluffyUnicorn2 votes

I read it doesn't influence your lp win/loss but according to op.gg my mmr was "slightly higher" than usual and i lost two games in a row as 5 solos vs 3 men premade team and both times i lost 20 lp.... usually 15-17. When i checked live game their avg team mmr was a hundred points lower than ours.... Such fun. Many Dynamic.

Troll for Trump2 votes

Playing with a premade:

Premade wants to attack the outer turret! x 100000

Enemy tps in and I die, while they spam the "!" ping

Premade signals an enemy is missing x 100000000

"Noob"

Taiju2 votes

You think that's bad? My friend is in Plat 2, went into a match against a team full of Diamond players, while all of his teammates were Unranked. Explain how that is fair, Rito.

DeathBurst1 votes

Well, I'm in Silver1, and I went against a full team of Golds, except one was Plat. And there was only a Duo and 3 Solos in my full team of Silvers. Of course, we lost. But you know how many times it happened? Well, just the one time, over 300 games in Ranked, and I'm not gonna start putting all my miseries on DQ's back, for just that one game... And you shouldn't too, if you have some honesty.

The Deckowner2 votes

I'm in silver and I had already faced a 2+2+1 premade team when my team wasentirely solo...the system isn't any better down here, people just didn't bother to check and thought it was just an unlucky game.

Vigilente2 votes

As you rank up each division, dynamic queue will become more terrible. Dynamic queue is a better option for bronze and silver players because it can be a way of lowering chances of trolling and lower elo players lack a lot of skill so a duo partner is more comforting. In diamond and plat. everyone is comfortable with each other because their mechanics/knowledge gap is smaller, so there is no benefit of dynamic queue, just causing it to be harmful.

The Taco Kat2 votes

It's annoying that I've managed to make it to Diamond promos twice, but the premades all come out once I get them. FeelsBadMan

Mojihito6661 votes

But i am bronze and i want to be boosted to platinum by my friends on their smurf accounts :(

ZeeWolfZ1 votes

One of the players I know was bronze 4 for the first month of season 6. She is now Plat 3. Boosted by 3 smurf diamonds. I am stuck playing with this legally boosted trash.

Alüe1 votes

Play 2 is aids get matched with gold sometimes or diamond 3 :-\ talk about shit match making

ZeeWolfZ1 votes

Story of my life. This season is filled having gold 4s and 5s sitting in my failed twice P1 promos.....It's frustrating to have the boosted trash in my rounds on either sides.

Swiftstrike41 votes

I am only Gold IV, but I haven't encountered too many issues unless it is a 5 man premade. But in those circumstances, I am also in a 5 man premade typically (or at least 4).

I figured it would become slightly more problematic in Plat due to the player pool being smaller, but I don't really play League of Legends solo in ranked too often. I like playing with one or two friends in ranked games.

I do think solo queue players should only be matched up with and against other solo-queue players, but are you willing to sacrifice your role if that is the case? I think in Plat and higher with the player pool being smaller most solo queue players would be willing to sac their role in order to play a game against other solos.

I am not entirely sure, but isn't Platinum one of the harder divisions in League in general? Most Plat players are very good at the game, much better than gold players, but isn't the gap between Diamond and Plat very large? A buddy of mine who consistently gets to Diamond every season said most Platinum players are very good, but their is a noticeable gap in skill between Diamond and Plat, especially in Diamond IV and higher.

GayFluffyUnicorn1 votes

Depends on of which diamond you are talking. Diamond V and IV is worse than plat. That's what keeps many players from actually ranking into diamond. Promo system is heavily unfair to rank up and u end up playing with either tilted diamonds or boosted trash sitting in diamond 5 with 49-46% winrate. It is a horror. Remove promo games between divisions, make a best of 3 to the next tier and if you lose more than 5 games in a row on zero LP u get demoted into the lower tier. That would be fair. But right now it is just a lottery if you aren't some high diamond/master player...

Gnart Even Close1 votes

The system needs to improve matchmaking for higher elos (plat+, especially in very high elo like diamond I+). I don't think the problem lies in the notion of dynamic Q itself, but in the current state of it

Karn Bishop1 votes

Yup, and if the competitiveness is not there at the higher mmr's it is not there at the lower end as well, and even if it was there atm the trickle down effect ill soon hit.

KnKitsune1 votes

http://i.imgur.com/2ganKFN.jpg

What many Solo players want from Riot regarding premades.

MrWasjig1 votes

You mean you couldn't see it before?

eastcoastblaze1 votes

Im seeing in gold 3.

0/8 sivir before 10 minutes, enemy twitch who's gold 4 is 15/0 before 13.

A swain getting outpushed, and out farmed by an ahri who spent more time bot in the 5 min span than mid. Stuff us really sickening and I cant wait for my desktop to get here this weekend.

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