It's up to the support most of the time
Had times even in adc meta where
was hella strong and
were Trash Tier ,
Won against me because simply they are lane bullies that usually supposed to insta win the lane " usually " Like Panth , Darius , Renekton in Top , or Zed , Fizz in mid , they usually fall a little later
However if your support picks the right champions , you can win against them easily
but she needs Bug fix
is pretty decent against them
From ad carries , usually
who are lane bullies and can outscale them easily
While Jhin becomes annoying in late game and becomes hard to catch , but he has no real Aoe Dps , and can easily gets outscaled by
users such as
as for Lucian , he really falls hard at late game , actually any adc in the game even the weak ones can out scale him , even the Garbage tier ad carries , he still can be a burst ad carry in late game but he completely lacks Aoe
And don't forget , that Lucian and Jhin are mostly strong against squishy enemies , they are not the best Option against tanks , imo that's one of the things why they are Strong rn later in the game on , is because Tanks aren't popular lately , Let your Top laner play Something like Sion/Maokai Top and let them suffer while you play Jinx safely Auto attack with a real front liner