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Why do these adc's feel the need to last hit the wards....

Dirty Bastard·10/24/2017, 10:15:45 PM·18 votes·2,400 views

It is bad enough that by nature supports are generally poorer during a game... that being said... when I am playing support and spending gold on support stuff, like well... control wards, and you know other stuff that supports the team and buying utility that you will never buy and I am clearing a ward then I deserve that gold for clearing the ward...

Supports who are warding and clearing and using the control wards they spend their gold on to make sure vision control is their team's favor and uncover wards deserve the gold for the clear. Players who snipe the last hit on said wards piss me off so much, literally taking the only extra source of income from your support that at least compensates a little for the control wards that we buy.

It should not have to be said in game, it should be common sense to let your support have that little bit of gold and not be such a greedy shithead ADC.

If the ADC's want map vision control to be in their favor they should all back the hell off and let the support get something back for the trouble of babysitting their asses. ADC's get creeps, they get fed kills... the least they can do is LEAVE the bloody ward clearing to your support when they are clearing a ward and stop last hitting it stealing the measly amount of gold that does nothing for the ADC but adds up to another control ward for the support player.

Such greedy bastards, I get to the point that I just stop buying control wards because it ends up costing too much and finishing an item becomes too difficult when you cannot at least get some extra gold back from the effort of clearing.

Its simple, let your support have something for their troubles or it ends up costing everyone the vision control. ADC wants more gold, kill a creep... clear krugs, wolves or raptors but leave the bloody wards for your support.

[zombie-brand-mindblown]

42 Comments

Mizaya10/25/2017, 6:49:52 AM8 votes

You know, I was going to write a long ass post, like really long, about why you are wrong, but I'll just say as little as possible.

For one, there's actually no point in perpetuating the stereotype of toxic flaming selfish ADC players. It only lowers the quality of discussion because it's nothing but an appeal to others who hold the same sentiment, thus resulting in any rational argument being bypassed by said sentiment. The same can be said with making a victim out of the support. How many times am I going to have to roll my eyes reading the word "babysit" on these boards? And I say this because my games end up being me, the ADC, having to allow the support to dictate everything because it's a randomly matched player and they might have the same mentality as you, that playing this game comes down to some set of moral guidelines. And I don't want to cause a tilt situation.

Another thing: gold income for supports is a lot more volatile than getting or not getting last hits on wards. How much time are you spending in lane with your gold generation items and how much are you getting out of them? Are you getting kills/assists? Last hits on wards where you are with your ADC is very specific. If you get denied gold by some other means, are you going to then not buy vision because of that, too? If not, I think you're just doing it to spite the ADC. And you forget that the ADC could be buying control wards as well with that very gold that their greedy asses stole from you (I certainly make an effort to buy them).

Just know that you are the type of player that I am so cautious about in solo queue :).

The Deckowner10/25/2017, 5:25:55 AM6 votes

If u are the one with sweeper you should actually let your teammate last hit it, because u get the gold.either way. If it's control ward then it's kinda fucked up.

FooDang10/24/2017, 11:57:33 PM4 votes

Weird. When I support I usually pings wards for the ADC to last hit.

To each their own I guess...

Support Position10/25/2017, 8:53:45 AM3 votes

I believe your stupid friend. Riot made a patch that if you're the one that vision's the ward. You BOTH get gold.

instead of 10. 20 gold for the team. (regular) instead of 30, 60 gold for the team.

Blue doesn't receive this or reds.

I will agree with blue and red. But not sightstone or yellow wards. You're teams total gold goes up higher if you give vision and SOMEONE ELSE destroys it. You also get the same exp for destroying it.

~I wasn't gonna read your whole post too long for me

FOR JUSTICE10/24/2017, 11:06:52 PM2 votes

In a meta where whoever maxes out crit first wins, i can imagine its not nessicerrily they're purposley being selfish, just getting as fed as possible before they can worry about anyone else

Being an assbag as it may seem, its just the way it is for now

WalkingInACircle10/24/2017, 11:07:53 PM2 votes

Uh, no? The whole point of support is letting adc concentrate gold. Gold is better concentrated on individual players than spread out and especially on carries.

AlienPrimate10/25/2017, 12:04:46 AM2 votes

I view wards the same way I view champions. Kill them as fast as possible. To do so, everyone goes ham the whole time and whoever last hits it gets it. Taking 4 seconds for a support who has .7 attack speed to kill a ward could cost the support or the ADC they left alone their life. An adc with 2 attack speed can kill it a lot faster and more safely from a distance.

z63XnLCMwX10/25/2017, 12:32:51 AM2 votes

The way I see it; if it's a free ward without risk, supports gets it. If we're contesting an objective and need to clear out vision fast, it goes to the person that last hit it.

Daddy Ants10/25/2017, 5:48:55 PM2 votes

If I've paid for the control ward that revealed it, I will last hit it.

If not, my support can have them.

Iręlía10/25/2017, 8:04:12 PM2 votes

I roam when that happens. Im hella triggered when its sitting at 2 bars and they are waiting for it too. Like a stare down on who gets it.

I just roam to other lanes and rarely come back bot. It legit triggers the hell out of me. Good thing I dont play support.

Nasuuna10/25/2017, 4:40:49 PM1 votes

if you revealed it we both get gold if i kill it

Quepha10/25/2017, 8:16:27 PM1 votes

Other than Ardent Censer, 30 gold on the adc is simply better for the team than 30 gold on the support (and Ardent Censer just ate a fat nerf). Strategically it makes zero sense for the adc to give up gold to the support.

It's exactly the same as the adc taking every cs they can while the support takes none unless they're using a relic line proc.

Rootlo10/25/2017, 8:01:34 PM1 votes

You realize that if you reveal a ward with a pink ward or with your scanner and the adc kills it you both get the gold right? Stop being greedy and let the person who is going to carry the game share the gold with you.

SasoriAkasuna10/25/2017, 11:18:20 AM1 votes

"Wards now grant full gold to both the player who revealed them and the player who killed them (bonuses don’t stack if the revealer also kills the ward)" -Patch Notes 7.4

How you didn't notice that you were getting gold even when the adc last hit the ward is beyond me, lmao. The gold isn't shared. You get the same amount of gold for revealing the ward and letting the adc last hit it, as you would if you cleared it yourself.

Letting the adc last hit it nets your team 60 gold (30 for you and 30 for the adc). If you last hit it, ya'll only get the 30 gold.

Darkdemon65310/25/2017, 4:36:17 PM1 votes

Why would you be OK with giving up minions but with not giving up wards? They're the same thing.