Finally Annie's nerf! We did it, guys!

Lissama·4/30/2015, 8:12:14 PM·8 votes·6,129 views
4/30 PBE Update

> Annie Attack range lowered to 575 from 625

Still waiting for passive, Q, and R nerfs changes!

32 Comments

Bears Dont Care4/30/2015, 8:24:50 PM5 votes

Really? Of all the champions out there, they are nerfing Annie. FFS, this community is bad.

Dedrius4/30/2015, 8:23:06 PM4 votes

I hate annie, Like i Really hate annie, but this is not a nerf that is needed. Her problem isn't her auto attack range, it is her ability to cast a AoE stun instantly with no chance for a reaction. They just need to make her throw tibbers like she does in the cinematic so you have a chance to react to it.

Until her passive or ult are changed she will still be a permaban for me.

Abyssphere4/30/2015, 8:30:39 PM4 votes

"Annie got nerfed, I hope they nerf her in three separate ways after this"

This is how you don't do balance.

goldensilver094/30/2015, 8:43:17 PM3 votes

It's PBE so....

Sukishoo4/30/2015, 8:27:05 PM3 votes

It's not in-game yet though on the PBE. So it may or may not happen.

LoLKiru4/30/2015, 8:19:50 PM3 votes

Don't think hitting her auto range is the right way to do anything. Mostly because her autos arn't really the problem (if anything I'm fine with her having such long range autos since she has very little range otherwise)

She needs something done with her passive, we've seen time and time again that reliable hard CC is a bad thing when its attached to burst damage as well (Talon, Old Xerath, Malzahar, LeBlanc, Some of these arn't exactly hard CC, but the silences still kept you from doing much for the duration, so it achieves a similar effect; Malzahar is also a fringe case since he can't really 100 to 0 you until mid to lategame). Super reliable CC is fine, as long as you don't have burst to go along with it.

Just to be clear, I don't want her nerfed (though making things less reliable often almost always equates to a nerf), If we can get rid of the impossible to dodge stuns, I will gladly accept her being buffed in other areas (wouldn't mind her getting more range to be honest, either that or more burst so shes rewarded for landing her cc more)

TL;DR: Revert the auto range nerf (it serves no purpose in the grand scheme of things, your hitting the wrong thing), make her stuns less reliable in some way, and then buff her in other areas (preferably more range or more burst, maybe both if she really needs it)

Pucking Purrfect4/30/2015, 8:30:20 PM3 votes

Not enough. Annie's passive and ult need changes as well.

Only Play Darius4/30/2015, 8:19:41 PM2 votes

NOOOOOOOOO

TeemoJenkins4/30/2015, 8:29:19 PM2 votes

So glad the cry cry's are getting a pittance nerf instead of hitting Annie somewhere it'd actually hurt.

Karen Kujo4/30/2015, 9:26:20 PM2 votes

Nice, that will finally delete that stupid Annie support and I hope that Annie mid gets quite rekt too...

Meh, I don't think so, she will just keep getting perfect CS with Q spamming, to then oneshot you with RQW

Borfin4/30/2015, 9:31:47 PM2 votes

Annie's auto range being so much more than 9/10 ADCs has always been silly. Won't be missed.

Phill4/30/2015, 9:19:23 PM1 votes

Currently, the way Annie's Q works, she actually gains mana from last hitting due to Doran Ring's passive and mana regen. Because of this she has a resourceless laning phase. She has incredible pressure for free due to no timer on her passive as well. The best way to nerf Annie is to lower the base damage and AP scaling of her Q and put that damage on W so if she maxes her long range harrass, farming and passive stacking ability she loses damage in mid game, make Q refund ONLY HALF MANA, just like Irelia and Gangplank Q and change her passive to be like MasterYi so if she doesn't use a spell within X seconds it gets reset (this prevents bush camping forever with her stun when supporting as well).

Goth Annie5/20/2016, 8:34:05 AM1 votes

I am a main annie and it no big deal about her auto attack range she is broken that is why I like her Even an lcs player cannot react when an annie does her combo from a bush she closes the distance from skill and I was gold 1 in season 5

Critmaster Garen4/30/2015, 8:41:06 PM1 votes

annie doesnt need a nerf. she needs a mini rework like veigar.

put a delay on tibbers to give people the chance to move out of the way, to avoid flash/tibbers combo. turn q into a skillshot. in return there is a lot of room to buff her w, which is probably the most underwhelming part of her kit.

Drunk Rummate4/30/2015, 8:37:38 PM1 votes

It may not be the change she needed but it sure as hell makes a lot of sense to reduce her auto range.

There's no reason she should be able to poke that well in lane as a support, especially considering if you walk up to retaliate she just stuns you and walks away.