Something is definitely wrong (Swain)

DaedricTerror13·5/24/2016, 9:51:04 PM·1 votes·670 views

Before, on old swain, I could use the healing mastery and kill a full build ADC squishy with just a rod of ages, I might die with them or barely survive, but I could.

Now with rod, an early Rabadons (which I rarely got before), Lichbane, and the adc just standing infront of me and letting me get off the full combo I just CANNOT do the damage, even with ignite AND deathfire touch, which I never used before.

With 300 more AP, ignite and the deathfire touch mastery I'm doing half or less damage than I done before on old swain, I dunno if there is some glitch in the numbers but something it just wrong, it's just not correct.

Please just revert him, the numbers seem pretty solid but they just aren't.

4 Comments

Beuhlakor5/24/2016, 9:57:42 PM2 votes

Swain is broken right now.

The thing is, building him pure AP is now wrong.

He got decent waveclear at little mana cost (reminder : old swain had beyond-reason shitty waveclear), better skills maxing order and now his heal on his ultimate is a FLAT value instead of a % of damages done.

Now you build Swain Tanky AP : ROA, Frozen Heart, Abyssal, SV, Rylai and boots for example. Because you don't need a lot of AP or magic pen anymore. Of course, other items like Zhonya are also possible depending on the team comp / game etc.

3000+ HP, insanely tanky, excellent CC on low CD (because you have 40% CDR) and enough base damages to murder anyone in 1v1 except a selected few duelists in lategame. And you zone the ennemies carries like no one else (not even dumb Ekko Tank).

EDIT : truth is, Swain is getting nerfs on the PBE.

Top Lane Terry5/24/2016, 9:55:18 PM1 votes

He has ridiculous healing and teamfights, what else do you need, one shots?

Quepha5/24/2016, 10:08:45 PM1 votes

Swain's QWE with 300 AP at level 9 deals 1864 damage and deathfire touch would add 75 on top of that (1939 damage total) and about 20 dps every second afterwards. His R deals 132 dps on top of that during E (adding 528 to the combo for 2467 damage total) and 110 after it's over while healing him for 60 health per second (assuming no other minions or champions are around). I'm not even counting auto attacks and lichbane but I also don't want to do the math for Magic Resist.

I honestly have no idea how the adc survived that, I feel like you're exaggerating.

Icestar11865/24/2016, 10:09:41 PM1 votes

I think what's wrong is how you play Swain. I've had no problems.