Remove Xin Zhao's Heal.

DaedricTerror13·Nov 19, 2015·4 votes·730 views

He doesn't need it, he is immensly strong and has a great powerful kit without it.

I think when it comes to the time that someone can survive his omega burst they should be able to duel him, he should also win duels.

The heal is Aatrox's thing anyway so what the hell? Honestly this guy just doesn't need this heal at all, hes not just strong but overpowered even without the heal, so please remove it, soon, like next patch.

EDIT: alright can we at least remove the attack speed active component of it so he can't just build pure damage at least?

His Active is full aatrox blood well + his ult COMBINE, be reasonable.

25 Comments

Espy PsycheNov 19, 20153 votes

Xin needs his heal to survive in the jungle early. If anything, buff it early and nerf it late (meaning less gain per level).

DaedricTerror13Nov 19, 20152 votes

Can't he just get the jungle item and pots like everyone else? Nocturne seems to manage.

EndlessSorcererNov 19, 20151 votes

You haven't actually read Nocturne's passive have you?

Hint: It heals him.

KinjishiNov 20, 20151 votes

His main point being - junglers without a healing mechanic do manage. Interesting side step though.

SalronNov 19, 20152 votes

{quoted} The heal is Aatrox's thing anyway so what the hell?

Hey newbie, Xin came out LONG before Aatrox, so no. It's not Aatrox's thing

DaedricTerror13Nov 19, 20152 votes

I'm no newbie, I know he came out long before Aatrox.

But its still his thing, we all know this guy was made when they were trying to balance champs and just decided to give him low cds on everything.

Hes got tonnes in his kit, very powerful stuff, he doesn't need the heal, its doesn't even thematically make sense, hes just a soldier, not some kind of supernatural regenerating creature.

LordGeovanniNov 20, 20151 votes

xin has significant cooldowns and has to use his q to lower them along with cdr

Troy242621Nov 20, 20152 votes

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Hey newbie, Xin came out LONG before Aatrox, so no. It's not Aatrox's thing

Besides, wouldn't exorbitant healing in the jungle be Warwick 's thing? He did it first.

BadmoonBCNov 19, 20152 votes

Hey guys can we nerf xin jhao cause he did really good this one game and got fed and now I think he's broken. So instead of learning how to beat him I'm going to ask for a nerf cause I am smart.

3TWarriorNov 20, 20152 votes

well, considering he can bypass your team's tank with his dash and then immediately kill the carry...

KaiokoNov 19, 20151 votes

I don't think it's the heal itself that's the issue, but rather the fact that when combined with the right item on the current meta it becomes extremely op.

DaedricTerror13Nov 26, 20151 votes

Why I think we should remove the heal so that undoable, He already has enough.

KaiokoNov 19, 20151 votes

I love that we're complaining about xin being op now. You should have seen him when he was originally release absolute terror.

Dominick DestineNov 19, 20151 votes

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I love that we're complaining about xin being op now. You should have seen him when he was originally release absolute terror.

Yeah. Xin was one of the most broken characters on release.... or so we all thought. /cough Vlad /cough Darius /cough Thresh /cough Every single CertainT character /cough LeBlanc /cough gg

The QuinndredNov 20, 20151 votes

Except that he was...

DaedricTerror13Nov 26, 20151 votes

Dude I don't really think hes OP, I just don't think he needs the heal, hes just a little stronger than balanced, I think he'd be perfectly balanced without the heal.

bageli11 11Aug 3, 20161 votes

Say it dude ! Release xin had no cooldowns also

FurretHasAGlockNov 19, 20151 votes

No. WE LOVE AP XIN ZHAO!!!!!!!!!!!

Dominick DestineNov 19, 20151 votes

I read another comment on a similar thread that very nicely summed up why Xin Zhao must not be nerfed... It went something like;

I know Xin Zhao is cheap as shit, but keep in mind it is Xin Zhao keeping the truly heinous BS in check

insaiyanbaccaNov 20, 20151 votes

agreed get rid of aatrox's healing :^)

The QuinndredNov 20, 20151 votes

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Remove Xin's Heal (If you Main Xin Don't Comment I'll Search History)

(Looks in your match history and scrolls to the bottom) I see not one game played as Xin Zhao. This, along with the sheer stupidity of this post, shows your lack of experience and knowledge of the champion's mechanics. You are very clearly butt hurt about a loss where you were playing as Aatrox against a Xin Zhao who outsustained/outdamaged you. And since you clearly have no wish to see anyone who ACTUALLY HAS knowledge of the champion has to say, I believe I can fairly say, this post is just you crying about ONE game that you refuse to accept was a fair loss.

DaedricTerror13Nov 26, 20151 votes

Hmmmm, well I do know his mechanics and have complete knowledge of them, you don't have to play a champ to read their mechanics, simply put I like cool champions not mundane ones, so I don't play mundane champions, even if they are the most OP.

Also yeah I've at times beat Xin Zhao and other times lost to him, you see its just the time I've lost to him is when I'm fed and hes 0/5 and getting wrecked and yet I still have to play FAR better and use my summoner spell to make sure yes over on aatrox, xin is an assassin, aatrox is the duelist.

So yeah the fact he can heal more than Aatrox whilst still having an extra passive that increases his attack speed by 80% (Aatrox ult and passive combine) yeah perhaps I'm a bit butthurt.

But yeah I guess you're right, because riot is unfallible, release ekko is fine, Akali is fine, fiora is fine, new garen is fine, Kalista was totally balanced on release.

You know what? I also think Darius is the most balanced champ in league.

I'm sorry to tell you, but the champion won't die without the heal, he just doesn't need it, its just a fact, its just reality.

Hes got insane damage, cc, gapclosers, cooldowns for all these things and attack speed sterioid there are champions with a LOT less that are still great, he doesn't need the heal, he can build lifesteal.

MAN HIS FUCKING BASE STATS ARE EVEN HIGHER THAN MOST PEOPLE! he now seems to have the highest melee attack range in the game with tahm and shit being nerfed!

I'm out, fucking unreasonable people.

Colgate GatorNov 20, 20151 votes

I know one shouldn't disregard people's opinion just because they're silver but...Godamn.

DaedricTerror13Nov 26, 20151 votes

Not everyone even plays ranked....

The only reason I'm ranked at all is my friend asked me to help boost him in duo and I gave it a shot and he got gold.

There is no point in ranked, people judge you based on each individual game in the game and there are no special runes or masteries to empower your champion as a reward.