How to make Doom Bot jungling useful

GetMariahCarried··1 votes·662 views

EDIT: To future viewers: This isn't a post on STRATS, it's a post on PATCHES to make more champions useful. Please actually READ the post before explaining how to play the CURRENT doom bots. Don't jungle. Get smite. Play ranged. I know that. Everyone knows that. That's irrelevant. I'm suggesting a CHANGE to doom bots.

Currently, there's not enough reason to jungle in Doom Bots, but more adjustments to the Doom Jungle could actually make quite a few champions, particularly junglers, that are irrelevant in this game mode useful. A lot of champions, especially melees, have no place in Doom-Bot lanes right now, and that limits the flexibility of this game mode WAY too much. There must be about 20 ranged champions that are basically the bread and butter of player picks for this game mode, and everything else falls by the wayside. Here's one thought as to what Riot could do to make jungles more amusing, terrifying, useful, and possibly imperative at the same time.

**To each jungle buff, add an extreme boost to the buff given, but also an associated debuff to piss you off. **

A few possibilities:

  • Krugs: Add an on-hit stun to champions, but also make every fifth attack from jungle mobs taken by the player stun the player. Stuff like this could make ganks more meaningful.
  • Wolves: Add a short-term cloak to all allies, but ryze-tele a doombot from a lane to the jungler, perma-aggro it to the jungler, and give it a move speed buff until it die. Also, aggro your own base defenses to you until you're dead (no you can't go to platform or towers or minions. They will kill you.) This could help ease up lane pressure while putting a jungler on a massive dash through the map to safety.
  • Dragon: Give all allies the drag cc-immunity for a couple minutes... in the sense that any cc cast on them is transmitted to you instead, no matter where you are on the map.

Note, these buffs/debuffs would only apply if acquired before the associated mob is aggroed to lane. Let me know what other ideas you guys have.

22 Comments

The Deckowner3 votes

you are supposed to survive and defend towers against enemies with overwhelming power, why would you waste a fifth of your resource in the jungle?

Boulderox2 votes

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you are supposed to survive and defend towers against enemies with overwhelming power, why would you waste a fifth of your resource in the jungle?

because you aren't wasting it, as stated, YOU can get buffs and helps clear the waves of jungle monsters that attack you, what does summoner 12 do when you have base towers and they go lane to lane goon squadding? nothing... at least smite can be used throughout the game

The Deckowner1 votes

i did not reply to your post.

GetMariahCarried1 votes

I'm suggesting a patch that would prevent jungling being a waste, and would create lane defenses BY jungling.

Please actually read the post, and since it didn't sink in, read the edit at the top.

Commit Sudoku2 votes

there isnt suppose to be Doom Bots is a survival type game mode rather than unfair fight

GetMariahCarried1 votes

Please actually read the post, and since it didn't sink in, read the edit at the top.

Boulderox1 votes

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Please actually read the post, and since it didn't sink in, read the edit at the top.

and you are barking up the wrong tree bud, is aram balanced? fuck no, was dominion? hell no, was Urf? there is a reason that it needed to be random, they have there own meta where one thing is required if you want to win.

You can play Yasuo in urf, but hes gunna be pretty shit because of how he doesn't get much out of 80% cdr besides wall. and for your information fucking Sion is GREAT in doombots, his Q abuses the stupidity of the ai, they walk right into a charging q, your ult is great and passive gets you kills Proof: http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2326039716/210988112

you just need to find the nishe they can fill.

GetMariahCarried1 votes

Comparing aram imbalance to Doom Bot imbalance is like comparing the size of an apple to the size of the earth. I thought to include a mention of this when I originally posted, but figured it was so obvious, it didn't need to be said. It really didn't, dude.

Yasuo usually does okay in urf, surprisingly. He's also ONE CHAMPION. It's one thing for a game mode to be bad for a couple champions, or two champions, or heck, EVEN TWO DOZEN champions. It's another thing for it be bad for EIGHTY champions, which is what I stated. And you haven't addressed that at all. You haven't addressed anything proposed or stated when it comes down to these trivial, insignificant examples.

I already said in another thread that some melee champions are good, but too few of them. Pointing out ONE here or ONE there is irrelevant when there are over one hundred champions.

Boulderox1 votes

complain about junglers not being good, give reason complains i am wrong because melees aren't good, give reason and example complains Done, can't help someone that won't listen and just complains.

Boulderox2 votes

do what i do, don't fucking play jungle, but carry summoner 11

  1. jungle camps attack lanes anyways = free buffs

  2. Annie Heimerdinger Malzahar minions/turrets/tibbers can all be smited away, AND FFS it is so nice vs an annie

  3. Teemo can be smited

  4. item 1416 Bloodrazer is amazing for teemo if you can get an adc with it and they can survive long enough to use it effectively.

GetMariahCarried1 votes

Please actually read the post, and since it didn't sink in, read the edit at the top.

Lintu Puck2 votes

or you could, I don't know, just go to a lane so one guy doesn't have to deal with a 1v2 >.>

GetMariahCarried1 votes

The suggested changes actually remove 1v2s and create 2v1s in your favor.

Please actually read the post, and since it didn't sink in, read the edit at the top.

Lintu Puck1 votes
  1. You are rude.
  2. If you had to put in an edit note at the top you did convey yourself very well.
  3. If this is all the case, you sound like you just want to change the mode so you don't have to sit in lane and hold the fort with other players, which is what Doom Bots is about.
GetMariahCarried1 votes

If you won't read, but reply anyway, you are rude. Downvote all you want, but that is the fact.

Oleandervine2 votes

Unfortunately, your idea is going to be extremely irrelevant because monster buffs are being removed in preseason. Adding them back in to an already programming-intensive game mode at a later date would be just nonsense.

GetMariahCarried1 votes

It wouldn't be nonsense, given that Doom Bots is rampantly filled with tweaks that deviate from every other game mode. However, this IS one of the first posts that's actually relevant to this thread. THANK YOU.

LXII1 votes

These are 17 minute long games where you can't take enemy turrets what on earth would even be the point of a jungler? Not to mention whichever lane is missing a person because that guy is off jungling will lose both turrets before the jungler can even do a clear.

Not worth, or useful.

GetMariahCarried1 votes

Unless of course you made changes to the jungle... will people actually think about what is being proposed?

LXII2 votes

The "why would anyone do that" factor is still there. Just accept that your idea is stupid and stop being rude to literally everyone that comments.

Mysticman891 votes

Ok but putting effort into balancing a mode thats going to be around for roughly one weekend seems like a poor use of ritos time.

As it is, they can basically pour their effort into making devilish scripts to make the doom bots crazy OP and laugh at how utterly destroyed people get, and that's basically the point. The fact that people have found comps to win even at level 100 is probably counter to their expectations, rather than "heh I wonder if they'll figure out these comp strats" or whatever. Trying to make it balanced so most reasonable comps are viable would hinder their scripting dooom fun too if balance was a concern, and tbh I think they wouldve been fine with it even if no one could actually beat the higher levels with any comp.

GetMariahCarried1 votes

They already suggested putting it into featured game mode rotation, and they've made patches to other featured game modes in rotation. It's not too much to conjecture.

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