The sad truth about this game is that you cannot play in solo quque and climb out of it. It's not even 50/50. More like 70 -30 against. Either find a bunch of duos who can play regularly or join a team. If you can't do that you are screwed.
Trylobyte7 votesWow, it's a freakin' salt mine in here. Thanks, Lyless! My fries shall never want for salt again.
Just remember, everything is random except you. If you deserve to advance you will. You're not going to win every game, but you will win more than average, and through that you will advance until you pull even and you are where you need to be.
1st Movement6 votesWow, it's a freakin' salt mine in here. Thanks, Lyless! My fries shall never want for salt again.
Just remember, everything is random except you. If you deserve to advance you will. You're not going to win every game, but you will win more than average, and through that you will advance until you pull even and you are where you need to be.
backstory is this guy has been complaining in numerous threads advice nor encouragement will change his mind
note he has over 400 games in bronze 5
grow up and accept your failures not blame it on afks and DQ
Reket DeAlk5 votesThe sad truth is, you can't climb higher then you deserve. Kinda how the system works.
You're where you are because that's your skill level. End of story.
Lyless1 votes[{quoted}](name=Reket DeAlk,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=OPJd7N4A,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2016-04-26T04:03:36.930+0000)
The sad truth is, you can't climb higher then you deserve. Kinda how the system works.
You're where you are because that's your skill level. End of story.
not even talking about me. But hey you guys are stuck on being stupid tonight.
Reket DeAlk3 votesnot even talking about me. But hey you guys are stuck on being stupid tonight.
First half was just a general statement, not aimed at you. So good job there.
Second, I never said you were talking about yourself. Just pointing out the obvious.
Lyless1 votes[{quoted}](name=Reket DeAlk,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=OPJd7N4A,comment-id=000400000000,timestamp=2016-04-26T04:42:11.081+0000)
First half was just a general statement, not aimed at you. So good job there.
Second, I never said you were talking about yourself. Just pointing out the obvious.
You just lied.
Reket DeAlk2 votesYou just lied.
And your proof is where? Just saying people lied doesn't make it true.
1st Movement3 votes[{quoted}](name=Reket DeAlk,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=OPJd7N4A,comment-id=00040000000000000000,timestamp=2016-04-26T14:54:31.464+0000)
And your proof is where? Just saying people lied doesn't make it true.
I believe this guy is intentionally making these forums kinda troll
He doesn't take anyone advice but his own granted
When you talk about him he will retaliate and the most hostile way
If u even lolking him it says I'm stuck Dq
So pls reflect on why people dont argue with you
If out of everyone who visits your forums at least half argrees with you then u might have some credibility to your statements
Meet Chaos5 votesLyless, it sounds like you created this post to just attack anyone who posts. Venting or not, if you're looking for constructive feedback, I will speak on that.
Solo Queuing is more challenging now than previously. When it's a group queue you play against and they are well coordinated, it sucks, i feel you. Like someone else posted before me, if you belong in a higher tier, you will still get there. This season, what i've noticed, it takes much more tenacity and near perfect game play from you, if you want to climb. Win your lane and start helping the other lanes, obtain the objectives, etc.
In low silver, i noticed you have to take charge more often and redirect your team to objectives. I'm not sure what rank you are, but understanding the fundamentals of the game and knowing what your team needs to hit next to win helps your gameplay and leadership tremendously. The reason I mention this is because I became frustrated many times when we had leads, but my teammates would start roaming the jungle, trying to hunt and chase enemies. In low elo gameplay, its extremely toxic and everyone wants to prove to the other one that they are better. That's not going to win you the game.
Also, another thing i did when i would lose and become frustrated, I would check out my match history and see what was the problem. Sometimes i would notice that i would pick carry roles and I wasn't doing that great, compared to the enemy carries. What i did was i would play support for some games, kind of chill for a bit, and do my best to support my teammates. That's when your leadership skills need to kick in. In teamfights, you aren't the first to get focused, so you are more aware of your surroundings than say your adc who's trying to run away from talon. Make Plays, Lead the team, and make it your goal to die less. In the end, all you can say is you tried.
hh the thinker4 votesif you belong higher, you will get higher in the ranks. if you aren't seeing progress, it's because you aren't playing well enough in the games or making mistakes that are holding you back.
saying it's not possible unless you play with others is false. it can be easier with others, but it's not impossible to climb alone.
Lyless1 votes[{quoted}](name=hh the thinker,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=OPJd7N4A,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-04-26T03:16:13.362+0000)
if you belong higher, you will get higher in the ranks. if you aren't seeing progress, it's because you aren't playing well enough in the games or making mistakes that are holding you back.
saying it's not possible unless you play with others is false. it can be easier with others, but it's not impossible to climb alone.
honestly you need to cut the crap. There are some games you cannot win. This would be more true a lower elos.
This post wasn't about me. It was in general. And I didn't say it wasn't possible. I said the odds are against you. But you don't read, I guess. You just like copying and pasting the same thing.
hh the thinker2 votes"The sad truth about this game is that you cannot play in solo quque and climb out of it" "cannot play...can't climb" "If you can't do that you are screwed." you did say this so don't say you didn't. the odds are about even and even if not every game is winnable, it is possible to climb as you now said.
Lyless1 votes[{quoted}](name=hh the thinker,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=OPJd7N4A,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2016-04-26T03:25:35.188+0000)
"The sad truth about this game is that you cannot play in solo quque and climb out of it" "cannot play...can't climb" "If you can't do that you are screwed." you did say this so don't say you didn't. the odds are about even and even if not every game is winnable, it is possible to climb as you now said.
And you left out the 70/30 thing. I see you just read what you want to. But keep lying. Keep lying on me to prove false points I never made.
The odd
hh the thinker2 votessaying it's 70/30 isn't true first off. you did say you can't climb without others to play with you. i haven't lied. no where have i typed a lie and you pointed out.
saying you can't climb without others is saying it's impossible to climb alone. if you don't understand this, i'm not going to help you with that.
Lyless1 votes[{quoted}](name=hh the thinker,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=OPJd7N4A,comment-id=00010000000000000000,timestamp=2016-04-26T03:31:08.905+0000)
saying it's 70/30 isn't true first off. you did say you can't climb without others to play with you. i haven't lied. no where have i typed a lie and you pointed out.
saying you can't climb without others is saying it's impossible to climb alone. if you don't understand this, i'm not going to help you with that.
Yes it is. I have first hand knowledge. You don't. You just can't admit you are wrong.
You don't seem to understand somewhere you haven't been in a long time. If you continue with these lies, I don't need you as friend. Because I hate liars.
hh the thinker1 votesi have been in bronze so i have first hand experience. you are wrong on that first off. you also don't admit you are wrong, which is really silly.
i have smurf accounts, but i carried them out of bronze (i stayed in silver, then redid the placements so it would drop since i can't actually lose games to get into bronze).
"if you continue with these lies" what lies? no really, quote me or something. i've played in bronze more than once and climbed out more than once. i've also played with you and you admitted to me being really good and knowing what i am talking about.
a lie isn't just being wrong also, it's actually knowing it's not the truth which i do believe it is, so even if i was wrong (i'm not), it wouldn't be lying, it would just be a mistake.
i don't really care if you take me off the friends list, i've offered you help and advice, but you don't seem to actually want it.
bronze isn't too hard to climb out if you are much better. it can be a bit hard if you are fairly close to that skill level and it's not possible to climb out if you are at that skill level. i don't really care if you don't believe me, that's up to you and your misunderstanding of the system.
Lyless1 votes[{quoted}](name=hh the thinker,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=OPJd7N4A,comment-id=0001000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-04-26T03:44:26.072+0000)
i have been in bronze so i have first hand experience. you are wrong on that first off. you also don't admit you are wrong, which is really silly.
i have smurf accounts, but i carried them out of bronze (i stayed in silver, then redid the placements so it would drop since i can't actually lose games to get into bronze).
"if you continue with these lies" what lies? no really, quote me or something. i've played in bronze more than once and climbed out more than once. i've also played with you and you admitted to me being really good and knowing what i am talking about.
a lie isn't just being wrong also, it's actually knowing it's not the truth which i do believe it is, so even if i was wrong (i'm not), it wouldn't be lying, it would just be a mistake.
i don't really care if you take me off the friends list, i've offered you help and advice, but you don't seem to actually want it.
bronze isn't too hard to climb out if you are much better. it can be a bit hard if you are fairly close to that skill level and it's not possible to climb out if you are at that skill level. i don't really care if you don't believe me, that's up to you and your misunderstanding of the system.
You were in bronze ages ago. It's like trying to tell someone how the old neighbood is when you haven't lived their for years. So spare me.
Your advice is actually BS. Like I said, you tried to directly quote me and then left out the 70/30 on purpose. That's how you operate.
The fact is I don't need your stupid advice. I will get there my way and I will surpass you. And regardless of what you say, This system is screwed up. I would say that even if I was Plat 3. That's the difference between me and you. I am honest and you are a liar. Don't comment on my posts and don't contact me again.
hh the thinker3 votesi was in bronze on my smurf fairly recent actually, but believe what you want.
i didn't add the 70/30 part isn't that didn't really matter and it was just wrong. you didn't actually get the numbers from anywhere.
i will post as much as i want on any post since this is an open discussion. you don't own this post. if you did own it, you would be able to actually stop me from posting my beliefs and what i've learned and understood on the matter.
saying i'm lying is a lie in itself. you also won't surpass me with the attitude you currently have, and i have a fairly good head start on you. my smurf is a higher rank than you and you still refuse to actually take help that could help you climb.
if you make a post saying that you can't climb and the system isn't really even, i'm allowed to argue on that. if no one was allowed to, then you would just have maybe one or two people saying, "ya, i agree" which would be really pointless, since no change could actually happen with that.
if you think i'm wrong, actually back it up with proof. my proof is my rank and others ranks, and how people are able to actually boost other people when playing on their accounts, and everything included in this. so far, you have just said how you aren't able to climb and haven't actually shown any real examples anyone who is above their rank in terms of skill not able to climb. you don't count since you are at a bronze 4 level at most from what i've seen.
Lyless1 votes[{quoted}](name=hh the thinker,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=OPJd7N4A,comment-id=000100000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-04-26T04:01:43.299+0000)
i was in bronze on my smurf fairly recent actually, but believe what you want.
i didn't add the 70/30 part isn't that didn't really matter and it was just wrong. you didn't actually get the numbers from anywhere.
i will post as much as i want on any post since this is an open discussion. you don't own this post. if you did own it, you would be able to actually stop me from posting my beliefs and what i've learned and understood on the matter.
saying i'm lying is a lie in itself. you also won't surpass me with the attitude you currently have, and i have a fairly good head start on you. my smurf is a higher rank than you and you still refuse to actually take help that could help you climb.
if you make a post saying that you can't climb and the system isn't really even, i'm allowed to argue on that. if no one was allowed to, then you would just have maybe one or two people saying, "ya, i agree" which would be really pointless, since no change could actually happen with that.
if you think i'm wrong, actually back it up with proof. my proof is my rank and others ranks, and how people are able to actually boost other people when playing on their accounts, and everything included in this. so far, you have just said how you aren't able to climb and haven't actually shown any real examples anyone who is above their rank in terms of skill not able to climb. you don't count since you are at a bronze 4 level at most from what i've seen.
I am not reading your posts or comments anymore. I asked you to stop talking to me and you will not? This isn't a open discussion. You are welcome to talk to yourself. You are nuts.
hh the thinker3 votesi'm not just posting this for you, lol. i'm posting this for anyone who wants to read your post. so far, it's gone from me making points and you returning with you don't have anything to counter with. if you want to convince anyone on this OPEN discussion, then you aren't doing a very good job on that.
i'm not nuts, i'm just willing to talk about each and every point and clear anything up. if you aren't, you don't put much effort into talking about things.
you basically said you gave up since you have no counter and that i'm right.
Lyless1 votes[{quoted}](name=hh the thinker,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=OPJd7N4A,comment-id=00010000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-04-26T04:09:18.822+0000)
i'm not just posting this for you, lol. i'm posting this for anyone who wants to read your post. so far, it's gone from me making points and you returning with you don't have anything to counter with. if you want to convince anyone on this OPEN discussion, then you aren't doing a very good job on that.
i'm not nuts, i'm just willing to talk about each and every point and clear anything up. if you aren't, you don't put much effort into talking about things.
you basically said you gave up since you have no counter and that i'm right.
I am posting this for myself, and anyone will be corrupted by the lies you and other tell about this game.
1st Movement2 votesI am posting this for myself, and anyone will be corrupted by the lies you and other tell about this game.
Nice communistic forum pls tell me how you are right and pls provide evidence to support your claim
1st Movement2 votesYes it is. I have first hand knowledge. You don't. You just can't admit you are wrong.
You don't seem to understand somewhere you haven't been in a long time. If you continue with these lies, I don't need you as friend. Because I hate liars.
See I notice this guy has tried to help you numerous times in the previous threads and has been more than helpful
From a bystander perspective and I was in bronze
If he helped me I would be gladly accept all the help I can get
Lyless1 votes[{quoted}](name=Reaver MHX,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=OPJd7N4A,comment-id=0001000000000000000000000001,timestamp=2016-04-26T11:02:36.006+0000)
See I notice this guy has tried to help you numerous times in the previous threads and has been more than helpful
From a bystander perspective and I was in bronze
If he helped me I would be gladly accept all the help I can get
Well, he also willing lied to make a point I wasn't making. And then he lied again after I called him out on it. He most liked paided to get where he is. And you need go away too. I am not asking for help from you guys anymore. I will handle this my way on my own.
1st Movement1 votesWell, he also willing lied to make a point I wasn't making. And then he lied again after I called him out on it. He most liked paided to get where he is. And you need go away too. I am not asking for help from you guys anymore. I will handle this my way on my own.
Ok riot pls check my account to see how I paid someone to play on my account
I am more then happy to show you evidence on live games
note I have jumped one division each season And improved greatly from season 1
hh the thinker3 votesi played vs Lyless and he lost with only 12 cs (he wasn't afk, he really only got 12 cs vs me and some of that was from jungle) and 12 deaths, no kills. it was mostly a 1v1, though the game was 3v3. he made a post saying how i actually know what i'm talking about, but the post got deleted i believe by a mod, or it could have been him. it's actually funny since he admitted to me being better there, and he's now going back on his word.
he thinks everyone paid to climb which doesn't actually make any sense. he also thinks the chance of climbing is 70/30 which shows he's not great at math since everyone has the same odds.
1st Movement1 votes[{quoted}](name=hh the thinker,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=OPJd7N4A,comment-id=0001000000000000000000000001000000000000,timestamp=2016-04-26T17:29:52.820+0000)
i played vs Lyless and he lost with only 12 cs (he wasn't afk, he really only got 12 cs vs me and some of that was from jungle) and 12 deaths, no kills. it was mostly a 1v1, though the game was 3v3. he made a post saying how i actually know what i'm talking about, but the post got deleted i believe by a mod, or it could have been him. it's actually funny since he admitted to me being better there, and he's now going back on his word.
he thinks everyone paid to climb which doesn't actually make any sense. he also thinks the chance of climbing is 70/30 which shows he's not great at math since everyone has the same odds.
*gasp
Wish more people were as positive as you in this community :)
hh the thinker1 votesgenerally, i just see this as a game. it's good to want to improve on anything and including games since the better you do, generally the more fun. i also help other people improve and climb. i don't get why people get so angry and take things so personally.
if everyone is helping each other, it's more fun and enjoyable than people attacking each other. just makes sense to.
LiveYiOrDieHard3 votesThe sad truth about this game is that you cannot play in solo quque and climb out of it.
orly
Lyless1 votesorly
I am talking about everyone who plays this game. Not just a few people.
1st Movement5 votesI am talking about everyone who plays this game. Not just a few people.
There's are more then a few people They improve or found what works for them
Ps the majority of players are not in bronze but in silver and gold
Lyless1 votes[{quoted}](name=Reaver MHX,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=OPJd7N4A,comment-id=000800000000,timestamp=2016-04-26T11:49:08.294+0000)
There's are more then a few people They improve or found what works for them
Ps the majority of players are not in bronze but in silver and gold
most of them are in Silver 5 and 4. Not a huge step up.
1st Movement1 votesmost of them are in Silver 5 and 4. Not a huge step up.
it is yet u still dont realize why your still in bronze
Lyless1 votes[{quoted}](name=Reaver MHX,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=OPJd7N4A,comment-id=00080000000000000000,timestamp=2016-04-26T13:08:17.151+0000)
it is yet u still dont realize why your still in bronze
This post isn't about me so......
1st Movement2 votesThis post isn't about me so....
Before you post another forum Ask yourself has anyone up voted on your opinion
If what you say is true then the majority would up vote you
BladeSteel1 votesNot necessarily...I saw a lot of posts before duskblade came out complaining about how op it is...and got huge upvotes. Those that actually did the math and said that it won't be as op as everyone said it is got downvoted and forgotten. After it came out...no posts whatsoever... Usually that is the truth...other times it isn't. (in this case it is though :P)
1st Movement1 votesNot necessarily...I saw a lot of posts before duskblade came out complaining about how op it is...and got huge upvotes. Those that actually did the math and said that it won't be as op as everyone said it is got downvoted and forgotten. After it came out...no posts whatsoever... Usually that is the truth...other times it isn't. (in this case it is though :P)
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LiveYiOrDieHard3 votesI am talking about everyone who plays this game. Not just a few people.
Do you understand that ranking is based on skill relative to the other people who play this game?
Thus the majority will be "stuck" in silver because they're not better than the majority? Just like you are "stuck" in low bronze because you are worse than the majority. Thus, to improve your rank, you need to not be worse than the majority.
Lyless1 votesDo you understand that ranking is based on skill relative to the other people who play this game?
Thus the majority will be "stuck" in silver because they're not better than the majority? Just like you are "stuck" in low bronze because you are worse than the majority. Thus, to improve your rank, you need to not be worse than the majority.
I am not stuck anywhere. How about you just go away!?!?
1st Movement3 votesI am not stuck anywhere. How about you just go away!?!?
Bronze still and this forum is open to everyoen summoner out there
You are stuck and bantering the faults of the system
Take some time to reflect why you start these forums
Lyless1 votes[{quoted}](name=Zyra Suit Samus,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=OPJd7N4A,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2016-04-26T03:19:41.843+0000)
I love it how no one reads and then you point outliners as proof. It's laughable.
Sniper 03 votesI love it how no one reads and then you point outliners as proof. It's laughable.
Maybe you should start blaming yourself instead of the system... I was blaming the system then I stopped giving a rat's ass.
Lyless1 votes[{quoted}](name=Zyra Suit Samus,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=OPJd7N4A,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2016-04-26T03:45:00.243+0000)
Maybe you should start blaming yourself instead of the system... I was blaming the system then I stopped giving a rat's ass.
Once again, I was making a statement. Not blaming anyone. SO, please take your angry self of my post.
Sniper 06 votesOnce again, I was making a statement. Not blaming anyone. SO, please take your angry self of my post.
You're blaming dq for your failures as a player. Almost every thread you create does so... please stop posting on the boards if you're not going to provide anything meaningful to it.
Lyless1 votes[{quoted}](name=Zyra Suit Samus,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=OPJd7N4A,comment-id=00020000000000000000,timestamp=2016-04-26T03:51:20.574+0000)
You're blaming dq for your failures as a player. Almost every thread you create does so... please stop posting on the boards if you're not going to provide anything meaningful to it.
No I am stating the truth. Something you aren't capable of doing. And I could care less what you have seen in the past. You want to talk about that? Then go to those posts. And if you don't like what I post don't comment. It's simple. But simple Minded People hate the truth.
1st Movement3 votesNo I am stating the truth. Something you aren't capable of doing. And I could care less what you have seen in the past. You want to talk about that? Then go to those posts. And if you don't like what I post don't comment. It's simple. But simple Minded People hate the truth.
When you want to argue something in an essay
You provide us with a thesis and actual context to solidify your claim
I am stating the truth isn't a logical explanation
That is just your biased opinion Try sampling a bunch of bronze players and ask if they argue with you
Sasogwa2 votesIf everyone has a 30/70 chance, you see there's a problem mathematically, I hope?
1st Movement5 votesIf everyone has a 30/70 chance, you see there's a problem mathematically, I hope?
He has over I think 400 games and hasn't realize that it's not bc of DQ
He's stucked in bronze 4-5 And anyone who gives helps Gets flames by him
Advice : cs , Google and look for builds and basics on how to play certain champion
He responds doesn't help or too hard
1st Movement1 votes4 win streak and going solo after I lose one match my duo
Statistics say I should have lost all three of next three matches :^)
Btw what's your excuse for not climbing out of bronze last season DQ didn't exist back
I climbed from silver 5 0lp equivalent to bronze 1 all the way to plat