The MOST useless champ in your opinion?
I was just wondering what you guys think is the most useless champion in league. Don't say 'there'no such thing', just please tell us what u THINK. I think it's bard :3
I was just wondering what you guys think is the most useless champion in league. Don't say 'there'no such thing', just please tell us what u THINK. I think it's bard :3
seriously what is this guy supposed to be?? Re-work him already Riot.
Honorable mentions,

seriously what is this guy supposed to be?? Re-work him already Riot. Honorable mentions,
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I actually really like Taric. He's fantastically fabulous in top lane.
-NOTE- Only against heavy AD top laners and AD heavy teams.
Fed me hard core.
He played really well, but my starting armor was 64 and going up in lane for free.
I suck at being a support though. :/
Honestly I just read through the champion list and I couldn't pick out a single one that I felt was useless. If you're talking relative to other champions it's really hard for me to pinpoint just one because even weaker champions have a niche that they fill for the most part, or have some strong aspect that makes them super annoying (like Yorick's lane phase and teamfight).
I know you said not to say "there is no such thing" but I'm really having a hard time giving you an answer lol.
Nigguh doesn't do ANYTHING.
"hey hold on guys lemme assassinate the ADC over the course of 3 seconds - oh wait JK I died"
solo que? probably
since you actual need team work. No champ is worthless you could just make a team comp around champs.
playing adc with a bard support is awful, especially against kill lane supports.

no CC, weak AOE, squishy, low range, immobile champs.
Say what you want about teemo, but he's fine.
Teemo provides map control like no other, and is the ultimate blanket counter to melee top laners. No one makes enemy top laners rage like teemo. On top of that, he gets decent burst with Q->lich bane. His teamfighting isn't great, but teemo has the tools to ensure that teamfights are less likely to happen on the enemy team's terms
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nasus can perform in late game team fights easier than teemo. He's not exactly strong there, but he's better. Teemo wants to make his impact before or after a team fight, whereas nasus wants to force skirmishes and objectives.
Wait, what?
I was referencing that Teemo counters Nasus hard.
that just seems irrelevant in the discussion, though I've been on both sides of that matchup, and I think nasus actually handles it fairly well.
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is the ultimate blanket counter to melee top laners. No one makes enemy top laners rage like teemo.
I'd say the context was fitting. Teemo makes a great majority of Nasus' damage output irrelevant, and he can bully him away from farming and pushing.
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no CC, weak AOE, squishy, low range, immobile champs.
Teemo? Bad? You crazy.
That's like saying Caitlyn mains can't play Caitlyn in LCS anymore. It doesn't happen xD
I don't always have Teemo for breakfast, but when I do, I like him with a bit of spice.
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no CC, weak AOE, squishy, low range, immobile champs.
Well.... Tank-Plank is not popular because "I need dmaage to win games!" ANd the same for Teemo. But I actually play a tanky Teemo becasue he comes with a 9 person taunt. xD
So what would be good on a GP rework?
Critplank seems to be the most effective build I've seen on him, and they've verified that it will still be a thing following his rework.
Im shocked at some of these picks...
I would pick Aatrox right now. He just doesn't seem to fit in anywhere. His base stats suck, his scalings are meh, he wants to build damage but has to build tanky to survive long enough to do anything, he's taxed way too hard for his revive passive.
That said though, he's still playable. Nothing in the game is really completely useless right now.
lol its lee isn cancer of cancer useless and shaco
I think people saying bard is useless just don't want to invest the time into learning the champion, you cant just build him glass cannon ap and expect things out of him.
From my experience I play him 30 defense mastery with tanky runes, I play Bard auto attack based with the meeps. Chime collecting will make or break this idea, if you cannot effectively roam and collect the chimes his auto attacks are pityful.
Itemize him for survivability, a sigh stone upgrade then build at least 1 auto attack based item like static shiv and really shove your ranged auto attacks in there.
I play him with defensive mastery and runes because I feel his AP scailing is inadequate, the only thing that really helps with AP is the health shrine that no one ever allows to mature before consumption so why bother.
Anyway there's my two cents on how bard is not useless to me
No champ is useless, but some are a little lack-luster.
I feel like
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are pretty god dang useless, unless they are literally the only champ a person plays
Noc's a fucking mess. He's got assassin stats but he's played like a bruiser and has no escapes. There's plenty of people with decent range gap closers on short cd, and guaranteed ccs, neither of which nocturne gets. He's amazing at 1v1ing squishies and champs that rely on 1 spell to do their damage/disengage/cc, but his teamfighting is awful without additional initiation, and that's hard to find from other roles.
EDIT: downvotes? Shit man, I fucking play noc. I'm very familiar with his strengths, and getting fed early and still being useless as soon as team game hits is a very common thing. Trust me, when you play him, he feels weak.
I agree. Noc has nothing going for him atm. He has poor mobility and ganks without his ult (which is on a ridiculously long CD), very little damage mitigation for playing bruiser in teamfights, and no rapid gap closers or escapes for assassin play. He needs a lot of love to be viable at this point in time.
I think they need to give him a rework, tbh. They should decide if he's going to be a bruiser or an assassin, or if they want him to be a hybrid of the two, like he currently is, give him the tools to make it work.
Same. Honestly if he had either some form of reliable gap closure or reliable damage mitigation, he'd probably in a relatively good place. His DPS is still really high and his scaling is great; he just needs a bump in one or both of those directions.
The only good Nocturne game I've had recently is an ARAM where I bonded with a Kalista, and that's just because I had a free engage/ retreat/ reengage on half the CD that my ult had. Even with that I still struggled clearing someone before I got deleted because I had no options once her ult was down.
zilean. useless shitty champion would be better if people just played yorick support for the ult
Other than the part where Yorick ults are temporary and only allow an extra 10s after death


So undertuned.
The re-work may be better for the health of the character eventually, as it provides counterplay and makes him less of an abuse case (either too weak because of bad numbers, or too strong because he had too much CDR and too much point and click damage).
But right now, he's worse than useless. He needs buffs big time.
Aatrox is actually pretty strong in Twisted Tree Line. I Think Morde May be the Most useless Champion in League atm. Every Top Laner dumps on his face, so does every Midlaner. He can't itemize the way he used to either.
Though I also was thinking about Karthus. His ults damage was nerfed, the Cooldown early on doesn't easily represent the numbers he produces. and heal botlane really counters his global presence.
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Aatrox is actually pretty strong in Twisted Tree Line. I Think Morde May be the Most useless Champion in League atm. Every Top Laner dumps on his face, so does every Midlaner. He can't itemize the way he used to either.
Though I also was thinking about Karthus. His ults damage was nerfed, the Cooldown early on doesn't easily represent the numbers he produces. and heal botlane really counters his global presence.
Mordekaiser is so useless he consistently has a win rate of 52-53%.
Mord beats most melee champions, and counters assassins.
Karthus is still a late game hypercarry. I never regret having a Karthus on my team.
Next time there's a karthus on the enemy team, look at his damage to you in recap. Defile is the unsung hero of karthus's kit. Karthus is stronger than people give him credit for, and trust me, it's not the ult. There's a lot of misconception around his play, and his strength. The idea that his ult is the best part on his kit is crap. It's base is high, but the scaling is garbage, given its cooldown. Yes, cross map kills are awesome, and it gives a lot of teamfight presence. It's certainly no press r to win.
With the addition of an early rylais, karthus becomes a kiting threat. His Q is treated as a single target spell if it only hits one target. He has strong zhonyas synergy because of defile. He has high mana sustain in lane. His teamfight presence is undeniable thanks to defile's damage output. On top of that, his Q deals a lot of damage with single target, and his wall is a powerful disengage and deterrent.
Interesting....Hrm...I'd say Aatrox or Yorick.
Aatrox mainly because his kit is outclassed by many other top laners and Yorick...He's mostly annoying but his whole gameplay revolves around making the other toplaner useless, because he isn't really going to scale that much himself.
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Interesting....Hrm...I'd say Aatrox or Yorick.
Aatrox mainly because his kit is outclassed by many other top laners and Yorick...He's mostly annoying but his whole gameplay revolves around making the other toplaner useless, because he isn't really going to scale that much himself.
Yorick's win rate increases the longer the game goes on.
Because he scales with his adc or apc.
Hard to say.
If you go by stats, then Ryze, as he easily (and I do mean easily) has the lowest win rate in every server, every mode that is summoner's rift based (normal, ranked, etc), and every rank from bronze to master (can't find stats for challenger, but I imagine it is no different).
If I am going by my own personal opinion based on what I have played recently, then I'd have to go by each position category to be fair.
Support - Taric: I know he has his fanbois and yay Taric, cause I was one of them for a long time, but realistically, he is the weakest support right now, and non-supports even outperform him (Annie, Morgana, Nautilus for example).
ADC - Twitch: Hard to say, as I would put a lot of them equal, and even though it is just an opinion, someone will always argue with me with a 7 paragraph response. I'd have to go with **Twitch **though compared to the others - **Trist **is second, but she can at least push towers.
Mage - Ryze: I would have to go with Ryze, partially because of the terrible win rate, and the fact his early game is so bad it is harder to get to his late game without being behind (not feeding, just not even in lane).
Fighter/Duelist/Bruiser - GP/Jarvan: Before you downvote automatically after seeing this, hear me out. This is less about useless and more about worst in their group at the moment. GP needs that overhaul/rework/whatever. He isn't terrible really but not many are more hit or miss currently. J4 was hard to put on here, but felt similar, as he has fallen down a lot since the tank meta started, plus the nerfs (that didn't seem much but were for jungling) to his flag.
Tank - Galio/Skarner: Note: I know Galio is a mage, but I really wanted to add him and Ryze is so much worse right now, I stuck him here, as he can function as both (currently). Continue:
When I see a Twitch he usually get's fed, and I don't think Jarvan is all that bad.
When I see a Twitch he usually get's fed, and I don't think Jarvan is all that bad.
I don't think he is terrible, but as I was saying, I think all the adcs are pretty close to each other, I just feel Twitch is maybe a few percentages lower than most. He gets fed in solo queue sometimes because no one plays him anymore, so he catches people off guard. As an adc in general, he needs a bit of love, but not much. I only put him there because I wanted to put someone there, and I just think he is the weakest of an overall fairly balanced group.
J4 was in a good place, but he isn't in a very good one in comparison to those around him at the moment. He doesn't fit in top lane currently, but he isn't terrible by any means, but he just doesn't work in the jungle as well as others...again, currently. There are just better picks, and this isn't to say Jarvan won't be better again, but he doesn't fit the current, right now, Meta. He is more of a get in your face and fight, and he doesn't fit the tanky mold of what some are. He is okay, but he has been pushed out quite a bit.
why does he not fit in top lane? Full AD J4 wrecks squishies like NOTHING else.
why does he not fit in top lane? Full AD J4 wrecks squishies like NOTHING else.
He just doesn't do the damage other top laners do and doesn't bring the tank that the tanks do. Until this current phase of the meta passes, the inbetween-ers (bruisers) like Darius for example, are a little wonky, because he either isn't as tanky as say, Sion, and doesn't do as much damage as say, Riven (not perfect examples, but think you get my gist).
I'm not saying, yet again, that he is useless, because I don't think he is, and he can work okay in solo queue, sure, but he is just simply at the low end of the list RIGHT NOW, and that could change as soon as tomorrow to be honest. Everyone goes up and down lately, especially junglers and top laners.
There is nothing wrong with him overall, there are just better options, which was more my point. I meant hell, I play Yorick top, and he is far from the optimal choice, and I enjoy it.
His fall was pretty shockingly fast, but it's not without merit. His first clear is absolutely terrible following his nerfs, and it pretty much left him unable to respond to anything without a leash. It honestly feels like more of a gamble picking Jarvan than it does Shaco or Nocturne at this point.
Tie between
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Any assassin that doesn't snowball is useless, unless they're decent split pushers (zed, tryn, fiora, yi, etc...)
whoever uses a shitty build like AP Ashe
Aatrox is probably the most useless in Dom when using an optimal build

She used to be good when she had a stun and good AP burst.
... now she's just a moving ward.
Lee sin. There are worse champs, but he's the most overrated.
Ryze is obviously the worst atm. He's far below the rest.
