Spellthiefs completely outclassed by relic and ancient coin

Murdercap··3 votes·1,326 views

ive seen many morgana's picking ancient coin now instead of spellthiefs If spellthiefs isnt even being run on morg, who in the game would still run it? Also, im not sure why they decided to remove the ability to proc spellthiefs more than once on one spell

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Daddy Ants4 votes

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Spellthiefs is the best of the support items at the moment.

Relic has been getting nerfed constantly.

Done252 votes

The "needs an ally" nerf destroyed spell thief

The thigh guy1 votes

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The "needs an ally" nerf destroyed spell thief

“But it’s just a small change. It won’t hurt it at all” - the entire boards during the gutting.

Yeah it’s bullshit that aggressive supports got fucked because riot won’t admit farm bounty was a mistake.

Red Mage FTS2 votes

I still run spelltheifs on morgana.

Unless im in an unfavorable match, then I coin.

The Skáld1 votes

Ancient Coin is better when you play safely. But for aggressive play Spellthief is far more better. And I can't really imagine to play that öuch safely with Morgana tho.

Tobykachu1 votes

I think coin gives out a little too much gold for how unbelievably safe it is. Spellthiefs generally gives out a LOT more gold if you're able to make good use of it. No idea why Morg would ever opt for coin though, considering how easy it is for her to use her W to get gold from it.

Daddy Ants1 votes

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I think coin gives out a little too much gold for how unbelievably safe it is. Spellthiefs generally gives out a LOT more gold if you're able to make good use of it. No idea why Morg would ever opt for coin though, considering how easy it is for her to use her W to get gold from it.

Morgana W only gives 1 instance of Spellthiefs gold now.

It used to give spellthiefs gold on each tick of damage and used to proc Thunderlords but it doesn't for Electrocute.

Tobykachu1 votes

It's still extremely safe and has a rather low cooldown, meaning you can basically proc it every time a spellthiefs charge is ready

FOR JUSTICE1 votes

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Dorans Pants1 votes

You have to play extremely aggressive or need a favorable matchup to earn significantly more with spellthiefs than with the other two options, which puts you on a clock and forces you to look for interactions even unfavorable ones, while the opponent support can go even or "out farm" you by simply playing safe.

This was not a problem when you could proc spellthiefs more often outside of the laning phase, but now that all support items have a similar range restriction this advantage has been lost.

now you take it for the dmg or you go coin.

FOR JUSTICE1 votes

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You have to play extremely aggressive or need a favorable matchup to earn significantly more with spellthiefs than with the other two options, which puts you on a clock and forces you to look for interactions even unfavorable ones, while the opponent support can go even or "out farm" you by simply playing safe.

This was not a problem when you could proc spellthiefs more often outside of the laning phase, but now that all support items have a similar range restriction this advantage has been lost.

now you take it for the dmg or you go coin.

except thats exactly why you want to pick spelltheifs, when you have an aggressive matchup. plus, most champions have a ways yo reach you from a decent distance away, so it really isnt that hard to poke from a distance to proc it.

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