Zyra is difficult to play with 325ms

Andrysek57·Jan 21, 2016·2 votes·346 views

I play very often zyra support and 325ms are very problematic due to the fact that these boots are not at all suited to this because when his plants champion its reset the tape ms boots.

In addition to this zyra needs a special itemization and lacks the space required for the equipment increases the movement speed.

The classic build zyra support There really is no space available to increase the movement speed.

My request will be given just +10 or +20 ms to zyra because let us not forget that it has no spell mobility.

17 Comments

NahuiJan 21, 20164 votes

She's an immobile Mage with a shit ton of cc. She doesn't need high base speed.

Andrysek57Jan 21, 20161 votes

Why morgana have 345 ms ?

StellafreyjaJan 21, 20162 votes

Morgana's movement speed is 335 (not 345) and that's probably because her auto attack range is 450.

Andrysek57Jan 21, 20161 votes

Morgana has more range spell than zyra, this is not logic !

Sir YamazukiJan 21, 20162 votes

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Morgana has more range spell than zyra, this is not logic !

If Morg intends on using her ult she has to get rather close to the entire enemy team and is why Zhonyas is required on her even as a support... Zyra and Morg don't even fill the same purpose as a support either. Morg is mainly for her CC/Shield while Zyra is picked for her high damage, some of which is multi target, and her ult.

Andrysek57Jan 21, 20161 votes

you do not provide reasons Morgana should have more than ms zyra

Sir YamazukiJan 21, 20162 votes

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you do not provide reasons Morgana should have more than ms zyra

I actually did, which was the first sentence so you didn't even need to read the entire post. Although you ignored it, so oh well and have a good day.

alfavhunterJan 21, 20162 votes

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you do not provide reasons Morgana should have more than ms zyra

Her are some reasons then

Morgana snare is single target (zyra is aoe and goes through minions)

Morgana ult requires her to be very close to her targets to get its effective damage and CC, while Zyra can place her R and run away

Morgana Zoning tool is only in her W, Zyra has multiple plants she can use to zone a larger area of the map with

Morgana spells don't give vision unlike zyra plants, who can also absorb certain skill shots

Zyra plants can block AD and AP skill shots while Morgana shield only negates some of an AP skill shot

And lastly Zyra can perform a lot of her damage through her plants even after she is dead (and has a passive that compliments this)

Main reason right here though

Champions are different, with defining strengths and weaknesses

One of Zyra main weaknesses is her move speed and squishies

Andrysek57Jan 21, 20161 votes

One of Zyra main weaknesses is her move speed and squishies

yes up zyra ms

alfavhunterJan 21, 20161 votes

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yes up zyra ms

Weaknesses are what make champions balanced

For example if anivia were to keep her CDs as is and become mana less she would be outright broken, anivias defining weaknesses are currently moderately squishy (her passive helps with this) slow move speed, and heavily mana gated

If Zyra had high move speed she would be broken with her tool kit and relative lack of mana issues (compared to other mages who go through mana crazy)

Andrysek57Jan 21, 20161 votes

ZYRA IS ACTUALLY 3RD TIER LIST !!!

small up is just a request for help zyra

Dominick DestineJan 21, 20162 votes

Morgana does not have 345. She has 335.

Anivia has 325.

Andrysek57Jan 21, 20161 votes

Anivia have a good passive, zyra have a useless passive

SnugglePuggle94Jan 21, 20162 votes

Her root has one of the worst durations in the game. Not to mention she has weak defenses piled on top of the slow as a turtle movement speed.

Dominick DestineJan 21, 20162 votes

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Her root has one of the worst durations in the game.

That's true, but it's the only non-ultimate snare that can potentially affect an entire team.

The closest is Lux that can only snare two and gets stopped by minions.

Not to mention she has weak defenses piled on top of the slow as a turtle movement speed.

That's true, I believe Zyra has the worst defensive stats of any character in the game, coupled with the worst movement speed tied with Anivia... however. Zyra is incredibly versatile and has some of the best zone control in the game. Zyra is not underpowered.

SnugglePuggle94Jan 21, 20161 votes

I'm not saying she's underpowered, because she's one of my favorite champions and has the best AoE team fighting in the game. She just has awful numbers and stats to go with. I wouldn't mind hoping for a little better MS buff.

alfavhunterJan 22, 20161 votes

Doesn't matter what her tier is

Asking for 10-20 base move speed increase is a huge buff, it might not seem like much, but it effects every aspect of her gameplay

5-10 would be something people might be willing to look into because she has no mobility by up to a 20 MS buff is just a stupid request with her kits kite capabilities