Spirit Guard Udyr and No feral flare in season 5

DISClPLE··1 votes·6,077 views

I was recently thinking about purchasing Spirit Guard Udyr, as I have been playing him the most jungle and the default is very outdated. Then I realized that there isn't going to be feral flare in season five. So what do you think? Should I buy the skin or should I wait until season 5 and see if Udyr is still viable?

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futuresight233 votes

If your concern over buying a skin is whether the champion will be viable or not, you probably shouldn't buy it even if the champion is viable, particularly with a skin with as high of a price tag as Spirit Guard. Whether you enjoy playing the champion and like the skin is the most important part.

Having said that, Udyr is going to be viable in the jungle next season given that if he is going to get his ass kicked by it, we are likely getting dangerously close to the point where people say screw jungle and go duo top. Udyr should also make good use of the Poacher's Knife item to get himself ahead at the expense of the other team's jungle. He is still one of the last jungle champs you want to run into in your own jungle.

Raptamei1 votes

If your concern over buying a skin is whether the champion will be viable or not, you probably shouldn't buy it even if the champion is viable, particularly with a skin with as high of a price tag as Spirit Guard. Whether you enjoy playing the champion and like the skin is the most important part.

It's a competitive game. Viability > all.

EndlessSorcerer1 votes

While some champions may be more viable than others, at most levels of play experience and skill matter more than the champion. If you don't enjoy the champion but only play them because they are strong, then that is up to you. Personally, I'll play champions that I enjoy because the difference in power is generally close enough that skill will make the difference anyways, I'm more positive and upbeat when I'm playing people I enjoy, and those champions suit my playstyle.

EndlessSorcerer2 votes

Whether or not you like the champion and the skin should be all that matters.

The removal of Feral Flare will hurt Udyr, but he was strong before it was introduced as well. Additionally, have you looked at the changes to smite and the machete enchantments yet?

Benefits for Udyr in Preseason 5: -Stalker's Blade (smite does true damage and slows) -Skirmisher's Sabre (smite makes next 3 attacks do true damage to target, gives shield based on max health, and vision on target) -Enchantment: Slayer (attack speed, CDR, stacking attack speed) -Enchantment: Juggernaut (health, movement speed, CDR)

I was never a fan of Feral Flare jungling because I like to gank lanes and get my allies ahead (or even, I guess), so I'm probably going to start spamming Udyr in Preseason 5 to figure out what combinations on the new jungle items and masteries work for him.

Marthian1 votes

Udyr is still viable. Still impossible to escape/chase from as long as he has Bear stance.

Teridax681 votes

item 3160 may be going out of commission, but I think Udyr 's still going to be viable in Season 5. The new jungle's extremely tough on its first clear, and Udyr's one of the few champions who can not only make that clear, but do so quickly with a good amount of health left. His jungle sustain actually goes up from his current state after he upgrades item 1039, as the mana restoration lets him last pretty much indefinitely, and if you really do want to emulate Feral Flare Udyr you can get Skirmisher's Saber with the Slayer enchantment, which gives you up to 64% attack speed, 10% cooldown reduction, 24 magic damage on-hit from the get-go and the ability to use summoner 11 to reveal a champion, gain a shield and deal on-hit true damage to them. Effectively, you can reach the state of a farmed up Feral Flare Udyr far earlier, without your choice harming your ganking power.

Raptamei1 votes

Don't buy it until you know which champions are viable in S5.

Phoneixflare1 votes

he's a really good counter jungler at level 2-3 so you can still find that he'll be viable..so yeah i guess u should be fine if you really want it that badly.

Sure Fear1 votes

Udyr is one of the top junglers this season, you should go for it, sustain and fast clearing make him a monster and his ganking ability is just as good, the new items make him better than he was with the flare.. plus that skin looks sweet!

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