The problem with Yorick

TheHappyReaperz··3 votes·798 views

Or at least one of his problems, is that a large portion of his kit is locked off in teamfights. The way most champions with summons works, is they scale with level. It keeps them from being too oppressive in lane, while giving them the ability to work well later in the game, and quickly set themselves up. For example, Heimer. Early on, you can only hold a single turret charge, and they take quite a bit of time to recharge. Late game, you can hold up to 3 charges, and they charge significantly faster. Yorick doesn't have that. The way he gains the ability to set up faster, is the amount of units to die decreases, from 12/8/4. And sure, that's great for when you are pushing down a lane, and you have the minions to get your minions. However, if the fight occurs literally anywhere else, you have no way to summon your minions. So, I propose this change:

P: Shepard of Souls Final Service: Yorick raises a Grave for every enemy champion and 12th/8th/4th non-champion enemy that dies near him, as well as for every enemy he kills with Last Rites. If Yorick leaves an area with active Graves, the Graves are stored in his cloak, up to a max of 4/8/12. Stored Graves are lost on death, and Yorick revives with his current max amount of stored Graves.

8 Comments

whathemath2 votes

Not a bad idea, I agree that Yorick needs some way to scale better in teamfights. Although I think a bigger problem is how long his ult CD is at rank 2 & 3. Most duelist ults have cooldowns that are about 1 minute at max rank (see fiora, riven, trundle). Yorick has an ult that's arguably worse than a lot of those champs, but its cooldown is 2 minutes at rank 3. If riot reduced the cooldown, it would help solve the problem you're talking about too -- yorick gets a bunch of ghouls when he summons the maiden.

I'd be happy if yorick got any attention at all -__-

The Lost Marbles1 votes

The Maiden of the Mist brings 2/3/4 ghouls with her when summoned, so Yorick's not entirely deprived of summons if he gets into a fight away from his lane. Plus she raises a new one for every unit that dies near her.

The main problem is that both his Maiden and ghouls just die too easily.

LordGeovanni1 votes

problem with that is by time maiden is summoned thats 3-4 seconds into the fight she activates far too slowly and she Brings ghouls to a fight by killing the ghouls you already have. Her tool tip says that she has her own ghouls why does she kill the ones yorick summons. if you have 2 ghouls alive and you summon the maiden she will kill your 2ghouls instead of making the 2 ghouls 4. Old yorick was a far better champion just that enemies ignored his ghouls which is where most of his power lied thats like walking into every caitlyn trap she has on the feild during a fight.

RenownedWheat421 votes

So basically, Yorick's got a pocket Graves. Nice.

Kidding aside, I like the idea. Yorick kind of needs it. His laning phase can actually be REALLY good as long as you have at least a double digit IQ and can hit that Q, but when teamfights go down your only ghouls come from your ult and that's pretty lame. He falls off lategame for that reason - takes SO long and so much work to get your ghouls up, and they're so weak the enemy just insta-gibs em and you're left with nothing. This will at least patch him up a bit.

Niyumi1 votes

The problem with Yorick is that no one knows how to actually play him, and complain about him being weak. Hmmm, now who does that remind me of? OH RIGHT, Illaoi! Guess what happened? Riot buffed her into god status, and she now is a free win unless she's being played by a bronze 5 moron.

RenownedWheat421 votes

Yorick is pretty far from a free-win. Yorick isn't weak, his weaknesses can just be accented by his team and EASILY capitalized on by his enemies.

Niyumi1 votes

Ha! Okay, well I have a near 70% winrate on Yorick, which seems like a kind of free win. I also have a 3.2:1 KDA.

His weaknesses aren't easy to exploit if you know how to cover for them, and if you build properly you don't 100% need your minions to fight. You can pop your ult in a teamfight and shred everyone, or you can just walk up and Q the squishies in the face for 800+ damage.

LordGeovanni1 votes

yorick does need help but his new ghouls hit harder than any of his old ones and those supposedly got him gimped in the first place

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