PSA: to everyone who thinks support is a braindead ward bot role

Pie Cubed··12 votes·1,743 views

It isn't. Support carrying is a thing, although not in your traditional way of "carrying." Support provides utility, not damage, which is something many people don't understand.

Tl;dr at the end. Anyway, to begin...

Utility =/= Damage

We do the warding, the setup for huge plays, stop the carries from dying, watch the map, shot call, and help ADC cs in lane. If you don't do the last three, you're probably not playing the role very effectively.

Support is the role where you're not focused on CS, so you should really be watching the map, warding and sometimes roaming to help mid if they're struggling. It's not a role where you just shit out three wards then use Redemption and call it a day.

Carrying does not necessarily mean you're face rolling the keyboard to 100-0 the enemy, it can mean other things. In a battle, you have the soldiers, then the medics and strategists. A carry's job is generally to instakill the enemy, a support's job is to stop that from happening to your carries.

Jungle and support are the scapegoat roles, because people don't often notice the benefits they provide the team. Nowadays, if you're not 100-0ing the enemy, you're basically "useless." An effective support can make or break a game. Teamfights are where they shine. And since your main worry as a support is map control and defence, you can also shotcall effectively. Supports aren't the ADC's bitch, they're the people who provide everything the carries don't: vision, map control, protection.

Tl;dr is supports provide utility. That's often underappreciated and the power of it is underestimated.

Utility =/= Damage.

15 Comments

ChaddyFantome2 votes

Agreed. Hell I'd go even further and say that support are the ** true** carries. ADCs are just Damage bots. :P

EmperorPengu2 votes

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Agreed. Hell I'd go even further and say that support are the ** true** carries. ADCs are just Damage bots. :P

But what about jg??? We clean up after messes too

Azureee2 votes

dae suck a support mains dick xD!?

Serber2 votes

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inplane4 votes

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Who the fuck thinks this?

90% of League's playerbase I'd argue.

On topic, indeed. Supports do a lot more than simply warding. I've excelled at winning lane at Bot simply because I knew when to engage, disengage, ward, sweep for wards, and coordinate with my ADC. Mostly solo as well, so that in itself takes a lot of attention and patience. Of course, I thank all of the competent ADCs I've played with who tried their best to keep up with my odd Support champ choices lol. Well done.

SnakDatSmilesBak2 votes

They also do damage.

Dataless2 votes

Bard

PePsiLemoNN2 votes

I've never seen anyone say that lol

Nomad Sol2 votes

If you think pressing item 3107 item 3190 item 3504 requires skill you're high, but then again the support circle jerk is so strong on these boards why does it matter what you just said was basically nonsense

Pie Cubed3 votes

[{quoted}](name=Dora Bora,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=NUdogUzW,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2017-06-05T00:05:33.218+0000)

If you think pressing item 3107 item 3190 item 3504 requires skill you're high, but then again the support circle jerk is so strong on these boards why does it matter what you just said was basically nonsense

If you think brainless skill spamming on minions takes skill, you're high. Top lane.

If you think spamming smite and right clicking jungle monsters takes skill, you're high. Jungle.

If you think facerolling the keyboard to 100-0 someone takes skill, you're high. Mid lane.

If you think right clicking takes skill, you're high. ADC.

If you believe support is that easy, you're likely not playing it correctly. Each role has its difficulties.

Alygriv2 votes

I don't think support is a braindead ward bot role. I just think most supports are braindead ward bots.

DemainaNyx1 votes

Yeah, but I think that's because that's what they think the role involves. So long as they buy sightstone and put a shield on my ADC, they think they did well.

I've had a Thresh that somehow kept me alive through Amumu ult, Leona ult E Q, and Rammus Q ult. There's a big difference between this support and most of the "supports" you see in this game.

MillForMe1 votes

Lux I like to provide damage as well.

SnakDatSmilesBak1 votes

I gotta point this out every time someone says that utility =/= damage. Just because they're not one and the same doesn't mean that one can't be the other. Damage is a type of utility because utility is anything useful. Idk about you but I can always use some damage.

JedenVojak1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Pie Cubed,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=NUdogUzW,comment-id=,timestamp=2017-06-04T18:22:27.516+0000)

It isn't. Support carrying is a thing, although not in your traditional way of "carrying." Support provides utility, not damage, which is something many people don't understand.

Supports aren't the ADC's bitch, they're the people who provide everything the carries don't: vision, map control, protection.

Ahem. Ashe

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