When have you ever won a game where both your solo laners lost?

a big red dog·11/12/2014, 11:47:30 PM·2 votes·807 views

Give an example and how often it happens.

11 Comments

killd0zer11/12/2014, 11:57:47 PM2 votes

Zed fed Jayce mid 4 deaths in 8 mins. Ryze was 0/3 too against a Wukong I think. Their Rammus was severly out ganking our jungler.

But master race janna and ezzy managed to carry with like 6 kills bot and double cs.

Onegarion11/13/2014, 2:22:29 AM2 votes

Well being a support main its rather normal. Typically come out of lane ahead so its not unnatural as long as they don't get dumbstered

67chrome11/13/2014, 2:46:15 AM2 votes

Give an example and how often it happens.

Probably 60% of my wins in a 5-man premade.

Everyone decides to mess around or show each other risky moves. Which subsequently tends to lead to all 4 lanes loosing. Then, largely due to communication, we group up and turn it around 20~30 minutes in with some solid teamwork and team fights.


It's not that hard to win a game where the lanes loose. Momentum can swing pretty heavily from the lane to group stage, especially if enemy lanners got to comfortable in their lanning situation when lanning ends. As long as you don't loose lane to heavily at any rate. Getting on the back foot from going 0/2 isn't that hard to recover from.

EffectFX11/13/2014, 3:42:31 AM2 votes

Frequently

Dar Raksada11/13/2014, 12:45:57 AM2 votes

Had it a few times, seen it happen on the enemy team too. It depends on teamcomp/champions. I've won lanes where all three lanes lost just by stalling it out (I main fiddle and prefer lategame champs, so I usually eventually outscale) in both ranked and normal. It happens more often now that I play vlad top (normals only though).

I've lost games vs fed prenerf trist with a good supp while top/mid won, not much you could do against it.

MTempty11/13/2014, 1:12:18 AM2 votes

You mean, how often do you win a game when mid loses? Typically, Top's job is to be a huge attention hog for the team. If nobody can play off of it because they get caught/deleted, Top is fighting a futile battle. (unless you are Riven or someone else who can make 2v1s into 1v1s quick by deleting the jungler.

SmokingPuffin11/13/2014, 1:22:19 AM2 votes

This happens all the time for me, as I usually play bot lane. You should expect your solo laners to both lose about 1/4 of the time. Obviously it's not easy, but bot is the most important lane these days so it's quite doable to win.

One specific game, we're purple side: Top - My Riven got soloed twice by Fiora early. She was 4-0 by level 6 and pushing second tower before Nocturne got 6. Mid - Twisted Fate defeated LeBlanc by pushing her into tower hard. Not quite sure how she conceded a kill in this lane, but TF emerged 40 CS up because LeBlanc is terrible under turret. Bot - Our Lulu/Cait won the level 2 engagement against Lucian/Veigar and it snowballed from there, because Veigar is useless if he can't kill. Jung - Two feral flare junglers didn't do much in the early game. Their Warwick scales up better than my Nocturne.

In this game, our duo took a 50 CS advantage by 13 minutes. After forcing Lucian back with poke, they took the tower and called for dragon. After drag was successful, Lulu came around the back side of the pit to catch TF and landed Q to ensure LeBlanc WQ + Cait R killed him, then took the mid tower. After buying, Lulu/Cait rotated top and pushed down top tower, leaving the game 3+drag to 1 and purple with a beastly ADC.

Cait ended up 8/1/9 to Lucian's 2/10/5, and Fiora just didn't have the support she needed to dive the Cait through Lulu peel.

AtheosisX11/13/2014, 1:35:05 AM2 votes

If bottom rolls hard and gets fed oftentimes it doesn't really matter that the other two lanes were lost unless they were lost in a massive way. Top and mid champs often don't dominate when fed like an ADC can.

a big red dog11/13/2014, 12:27:03 AM1 votes

Ahhhh. The grand master Janna Ez. I wonder how that game would have gone if it was an enemy zed who was fed instead of a jayce. Probably not as well, I presume. Good job though, you did the almost impossible.

a big red dog11/13/2014, 2:20:40 AM1 votes

It seems like bot can win really hard but if mid wins just as hard, if they are allowed to roam, you will lose. It all depends on who the fed mid is though. Super fed assassin Zed vs fed adc Caitlyn , if the super fed assassin gets to roam, it's usually gg for adc.

Sojs11/14/2014, 12:38:03 AM1 votes

when i pick adc and poop on noobs