both broken as fuck can we nerf their 0 counterplay burst pattern?
You can lane against them before first back but once they get a few sword they can just smash their keyboard and outtade you because reasons.
Both have insane win rate in diamond games http://na.op.gg/statistics/champion/. just because these champ doesnt stomp your average bronze games doesnt mean they're not op. And yes hemidinger and sejuani is broken and cancer.
redniwediS3 votesYou say zero counterplay, but I reliably win against both of them. Have you tried mixing up your strategies to find something that works against them?
Sinister Snail3 votes"Talon is the Riven of mid lane."
I can see that. Like, they both have annoying kits, which shitty players interpret to mean overpowered. And they both have meaningful weaknesses and counterplay, which people making these butthurt threads will vehemently deny.
And before you say "lol Talon main spotted," nope. Vel'koz main, who knows how to land a knock up. Talon is far from the most dangerous assassin in mid lane. He has one mobility spell, which is an enemy targeted blink without a reset. Yeah, his ult, but it's only invisibility: put a pink ward on quick cast and watch him cry. Or just blind fire skillshots, he's squishy enough that that sometimes works too.
Far more dangerous assassins would be zed or LeBlanc, with multiple mobility spells with far more versatility due to being ground targeted.
So yeah, not even close to OP.
Elisai2 votesAnyone with a targetable stun and they're dead. Pick annie lissandra ryze or taric and he's as good as dead. That's how you counter a assassin.
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Anyone with a targetable stun and they're dead. Pick annie lissandra ryze or taric and he's as good as dead. That's how you counter a assassin.
Clearly you haven't pressed R and Ghostblade at the same time. The speed in which you run around the entire team even jukes the LCS... uh.. camera men? WHOEVER moves the camera in the lcs.
Kariu Rena1 votesTargeted stun counters everyone lmao
Gigahappytown2 votesAssasssins are garbage in this meta talons no different He has higher dps then zed but is not near as safe and too many beefy targets leaves him only with the marksman ap carry or support and good luck getting through 3 tanks.
Lugg1 votesROFL. Assassins are so OP right now. If fed (which they are 90% of the time), they melt tanks just as fast as the squishies until late game. I was in a game last week where a Zed 3v1'd a fed Volibear, a fed Ashe, and a fed Anivia.
warpenguin5552 votesFrom what i hear talon sucks right now. Also neither talon or riven have a targeted stun, the only one who does is 
MLDzXnRRR2 votesTalon has no escape, can't duel with his crap attack speed (bork is also bad on him), mana problems, bad vs tanks with hp/armor (buy warmog vs him, he can't burst you anymore). Zed is better duelist, but worse teamfighter, has escape, but his ult can be removed.
S H A Y C 01 voteshe has a 4.5% pick rate...so im not sure its kind of hard to tell whether he's really that broken or not.
GiveMeTalonPlz1 votesYou should have played when Talon had his silence, I wish theyd give it back to him.
Kariu Rena1 votesHis winrate dropped 2% from 56 to 54 iirc
Yeah hes totally gutted bro
GiveMeTalonPlz3 votesBecause win rates mean absolutely anything....
Also I never said he was gutted, I am saying youre being a giant fat pussy about losing to a talon.
Kariu Rena1 votesSorry dipshit im using diamond games statistic not your average bronze games winrate does mean something when you also look at the pick rate
Only shitlord will think winrate doesnt mean anything i guess ahri was balanced when she had 60% wr back then rofl
Drunk Rummate1 votesBeat the hell out of him with Azir. Your 6 counters his, only really dangerous levels are 4-5 and those even aren't dangerous if you poke him enough at lvls 1-3 and shield his all in with your E.