Yasuo-More than a 100% armor Pen

Whettamyessam·3/14/2015, 1:41:33 PM·1 votes·4,497 views

Has anyone thought about what would happen if Yasuo built last whisper AND black cleaver. The result. When paired with his ult, results in 115% armor pen after 5 attacks. that is not even acknowledging the 6% from masteries or the base armor pen marks, which all increase your damage by the amount of penetration that is unused. How much damage would a full ad built yasuo do if he had black cleaver, their would be no counter. So would that bonus 15-21% armor pen increase his damage by 21% as well, if of course it worked like the bonus flat armor penetration please leave your thoughts below****

11 Comments

B3ER3/14/2015, 1:57:47 PM2 votes

That's not how it works dude. % Pen is multiplicative, and will therefore converge to 100%, but never exceed it. 100% is the asymptote. Flat Pen does stack additively.

Penetration in general will not put you over 100% either, but reduction could. This is evident in MPen builds where you have MPen marks, sorcs, and haunting to reduce a champion's MR to near 0. Building Abyssal (which reduces MR) can effectively bring your opponent's MR to negative values for your damage only.

EDIT: Thanks for the clarification on the order. After 4 years of this game, I still learn something new.

Talamare3/14/2015, 2:26:00 PM2 votes

I will explain

I am Garen, and I have built THE UNSTOPPABLE 9 THORNMAIL BUILD and have 1000 Armor

I have 91% Damage Reduction! Caitlyn just Critted Zilean for 2k and 1shotted him, She did the same against me and only did 180 damage (and died instantly because of the Thornmail effect)

Then Here comes Yasuo, With his Black Cleaver, Last Whisper, Masteries, Runes, and Ultimate

I believe Yasuo's ultimate applies first, so 900 of my armor being bonus Armor is reduced by 50% Placing me at 550 Armor Black Cleaver's 25% comes next and I'm down to 412 Last Whisper's 35% is next and I'm down to 267 Mastery 6% is next and I'm down to 250 Flat Penetration is next and I'm likely down to a flat ~200 Armor

With 2000 Actual HP, my 'effective HP' with 1000 armor was ~22,000 He has reduced my effective HP to ~6000

Fizz is not Fish3/14/2015, 2:01:15 PM1 votes

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Armor_penetration

SleepyLionCub3/14/2015, 3:26:37 PM1 votes

You are calculating Black Cleaver, and Last whisper's Armor penetration incorrectly.

Last whisper does not give 35 armor penetration. it ignores 35% of armor AFTER flat armor penetration.

Actually getting a LW, and getting a black cleaver is somewhat a waste, because the more armor pen u have, the less armor Last whisper ignores.