Where is the Ornn W nerf

AS I LAY FEEDING·Jan 9, 2018·25 votes·1,780 views

I am so tired that he misses everything else in his kit and his dmg output is 50% aa 50% W. How to counter Ornn do i build MR or do i build ARMOR? The same thing is with Maokai. But ORNN W is beyond broken.

28 Comments

MansaeJan 9, 201812 votes

I agree. Ornn can mess up everything and still win a trade with W

TheThundersRoarJan 10, 20186 votes

Sorry, too busy nerfing the utter shit out of Heimerdinger

General Esdeath Jan 10, 20187 votes

> nerfs his ult Q > still makes him the most anti-melee champ in game despite trying to make him not as hard of a counter

"Nerfing the utter shit out of"

FreevageeterJan 10, 20185 votes

With a 1.33% playrate and a 52% winrate, also the whole "still makes him the most anti-melee champ in the game" quote is bullshit because pantheon and teemo exist, where they have higher pickrates AND winrates.

This Sux 78Jan 10, 20181 votes

Ornn win rate is below 50% and he has easy counters. Ppl need to be worried about Kayle highest win rate top and mid instead of trying to make a anti melee tank squishy so they can run garen or darius down a teams throat. Kids just need to get good or uninstall

AS I LAY FEEDINGJan 10, 20181 votes

He dosent have any counters because noone can force him out of lane. His winrate isnt that big because tanks in general besides Shen dosent carry games. Its mostly botlane who decides games. I have played a lot of teemo against him, you cant do much really. As teemo you just takes so much dmg to minions and his W pre 6, after six he got his defence stats, cant do much.

I had a winning lane as Darius yesterday. Around lvl 5 i had like max stacks and i had to aa him like 1000 times to kill him, it was nuts because he only had cloth armor. i won the game with steraks and trinity force, black cleaver is weak etc. The end screen shows that me and Ornn were even in dmg and i was a winning darius with dmg items and he pure defence.

His winrate is lower as expected because people are picking him because every challenger players says he is busted. How to play Ornn you walk up to the enemy press W soak the dmg and deal tons of dmg repeat.

Ornn is a joke

This Sux 78Jan 10, 20181 votes

What rank are you? What mastery are your top champs? A month ago galio was op now it's ornn. You guys just can't get past the easy to play champs. You play as skill cap champs because that's your skill lvl play a more complex melee champ and get some lane management learned and all champs are beatable. Freeze the lane take away his cs he can't win simple. Ornn isn't a roaming ganking champ. Basically learn mechanics and macro before you blame the champs.

General Esdeath Jan 11, 20181 votes

Panth can zone but falls off, same with Teemo. Heimer can push hard, 2v1 easily with stopwatch, and burst from a distance without much mana costs.

Sexy Jack RabbitJan 10, 20181 votes

Oh PUH-LEASE

XxDRAGONsAK47xXJan 10, 20182 votes

Kinda like Jayce.

Can miss all skill shots on his gun, but q, aa, e on hammer and you lose 3/4ths of your HP.

4th3t0sJan 10, 20188 votes

Easiest fix, just revert it back to % current instead of % max hp

Spank the FoxJan 10, 20182 votes

How does that fix anything about his laning? It still did a minimum of 280 base damage at max rank.

it’s the Brittle mark hitting for 7% per proc that is the issue, on top of an anti-trade shield and spammable nature.

FreevageeterJan 10, 20184 votes

I'm more confused on why his ult does 500 damage level 1.

Agent CorgiJan 10, 20182 votes

Theres a W nerf on PBE right now. [W]: Bellow's Breath - Ornn's Advance is no longer "Unstoppable".

ninjaroxasJan 10, 20181 votes

Wow that is a huge nerf. Imo that will actually make him completely useless against any top laner with hard cc. This is assuming that it also stops his breath

DoozkuJan 10, 20181 votes

It doesnt, he just stops moving.

ninjaroxasJan 11, 20181 votes

Well it's not too bad then

Smitty ManjensenJan 10, 20182 votes

Do people realize Ornn isn't doing so well? His winrate is under 48.32%, and was falling since his last W nerfs, now his ult got nerfed too.

This Sux 78Jan 10, 20182 votes

These kids are morons they just want basic boring champs that they can one shot with and say they are good. And they never leave bronze and say it's because they don't try or they never play ranked and say they don't care. But when you get a champ who shuts down 1 shot melee champs and oh no he is ok. Fuck all that noise leave ornn alone get good or play a different lane champ preferably a different game.

BobaFlautistJan 10, 20181 votes

You don't need to win trades with Ornn to win. He's a bit of a lane bully, but he has low kill pressure without either a gank or you standing in him.

Don't commit to a trade trade if he has W up or Brittle on you (yeah, so basically at all), buy lotsa potions and outsustain his Mana bar.

And he scales ok, but he's not as useful in teamfights as a standard tank, so even if you typically rely on forcing an early advantage you can still win games vs Ornn by farming out the lane until you have some items.

AS I LAY FEEDINGJan 10, 20183 votes

You know that ornn just builds mana crystals in lane and his base stats just carries him. His ult is strong in teamfights, same with his E knock up. Tbh i dont really care that much about ornn, but when his QER dosent do much besides cc and little dmg. I dont get why they just put all the BIG dmg. shield. cc breaker into W. i can also mention when facing ornn his aa seems clunky and unpredictable.

My main problem is that It feels like getting killed by old ahri thats missing every skillshot.

BobaFlautistJan 10, 20181 votes

I mean I totally hear that it's frustrating, but if Ornn is stacking Mana crystals instead of combat stats, he 100% shouldn't have kill pressure.

It's fine to hate playing against him, but I've found it's a LOT less stressful if I keep in mind that I don't ever really have to fight him.

AS I LAY FEEDINGJan 10, 20184 votes

His base stats are too high, he can build abyssal mask and frozen heart first buy. CDR buffs Ornn dmg/defence by a lot, because W provides too much dmg and shield. They should just nerf W and buff the other abilities. he dosent really need dmg stats besides cdr.

Ben SharpioJan 10, 20181 votes

They made his W "unstoppable" and increased his ult CD what more do you want? I think it's an attempt to put him back in-line

BeatzBoyFTWJan 10, 20184 votes

Uhh they're REMOVING the "unstoppable" debuff, and all these is in 8.2, which just got into PBE.

AS I LAY FEEDINGJan 10, 20183 votes

So they are going to nerf "unstoppable" and not the dmg part, sounds pretty dumb to me. People will complain about his dmg and when they finally nerf his W dmg after the "unstoppable" nerf noone will play him gg wp riot.

Meep ManJan 10, 20181 votes

You build MR because the thing making his AA deal big damage is Brittle effect, which is magic damage. He deals primarily magic damage, with his E being the only thing dealing physical damage, but good luck whittling someone down with Ornn E.