We have no MR runes unless you go resolve Sorc Boots and Void staff just got buffed in their pen.
So I feel that any mage who builds Sorc boots and Liandry's is going to basically do true damage to people. And then Void Staff will let them demolish tanks further
The Bearded Bard2 votesIdk man, Adc are still gonna be doing 1k damage per second once they have two items.
Dark Nephthys1 votesMages are losing their 7-8 Magic pen from the runes, since new runes has no magic pen. So they are buffing 
by 3 magic pen and 
by 5% to compensate. Same thing for the Lethality items as well.
Critmaster Garen1 votes[{quoted}](name=Dark Nephthys,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=MZd90oXZ,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-10-11T21:43:58.044+0000)
Mages are losing their 7-8 Magic pen from the runes, since new runes has no magic pen. So they are buffing
and we are losing 27 magic resist from runes...
see how 8 flat pen is less than 27 mr?
so yea, youre already coming out ahead. and its not like you lose out on much damage from runes in the first place, since you get a decent amount of ap from the pathes... and theyre buffing base damage on abilities.
Dark Nephthys1 votesThat is 8 Magic pen that is used for mainly the early game in lane, against a scaling MR that takes level 18 to reach. By then, unless you are an ADC, you'd have at least 1 MR item and enough HP that some mages wouldn't really do much to you anyways.
Yes we can get decent amount of AP from paths but we aren't getting increased AP from the base stat compensation. AD champions and Tanks get AD from the paths and get 6 AD from base stats increase. Mages are only getting base HP and HP/level for stat changes and no mages have gotten any changes to their base damage, only AD and tanks have gotten base damage increases. Yes there are changes still going on, so maybe mages are getting increase to their base damage still or maybe these magic pen buffs is what we'll get instead, no one really knows.
Also the 5% increase on was because we lost the 7% from old mastery (for the champions who used DFT). The is only 3 magic pen anyways, and even Lethality is getting buffed as well.
o0O Madoka O0o1 votesStat balancing isn't finalized yet, it's still too early to be sure.
Also, non mages are getting additional damage buffs to compensate too.
Meep Man1 votesRiot stats read that squishy vs squishy damage on the PBE, which usually has to do with penetration, has gone down by about 10-12%. These are small buffs to move a little back to the 0%.
AirKingNeo1 votesfree 600 gold with stopwatch rune is cancer
Titanium701 votes600 gold stopwatch? what are you talking about? That's the estimate value of one zhonyas effect or what?
AirKingNeo1 votesNo, the stopwatch item is 600 gold and also there's a rune for gaining a free one at 6 minutes.
Free 600 gold for mages. Very broken.
Titanium701 votesYou forget that TONS of DMG™ kicked the Bucket coming from Old Runes and ESPCIALLY Masteries.
No Scorcery - No Fresh Blood - No Natural Talent - No Double Edge - No Assassin - No Merciless - No Precision - No TunderLords.
Sure some of them got replaced. But these are 8! Sources of additional DMG. And you can only Equip 6 Runes - and ALOT of them have nothing to do with actual DMG.
OFC - there are some DMG options, but right now they're getting quite heavily outclassed by all the utility and scaling options. As long as they don't change that I expect the overall DMG in the game to go down quite drasticly (especially early) which is really REALLY GOOD for the game.
PopcornBunni1 votesIsn't there a rune that's effectively a free Hexdrinker available to literally every character?
Tristanl0l1 votesyou can't talk about mages being strong, that's not the circle jerk of the month. people here think mages are bad and need buffs. no point in posting
