Does armor even matter

Sensual Singed·8/19/2016, 7:31:12 AM·12 votes·1,488 views

Armor is the counter to ad dmg but how is it when i have over 500 armor and 3k hp that the enemy ad does 1/4 -2/3 my hp in 2 autos. Like you make it really fking hard to solo carry trash when no matter what i build the enemy adc will destroy me in 2 secs. so wtf do i actually build to counter this i've had no problem with being a tank in the past i feel the last whisper items should be nerfed or something like i feel i'd be better off going full dmg with the hope of one shotting enemy adc cause tank just means i do 0 dmg and die in 2 secs instead of 1.

42 Comments

Reikken8/19/2016, 7:44:09 AM5 votes

wah wah I can't 1v3 with my armor cry cry

Sensual Singed8/19/2016, 8:18:59 AM4 votes

I'm actually at the point that if the enemy adc gets a double kill early i just afk cause i know that i will mean nothing no matter how tanky i get. and even though my champ excels at stalling out the game to max builds we are going to lose because their adc is better. legit i feel like the only way to carry as a tank is to play some shit like tank ekko and oneshot the enemy adc even though you are full tank btw is fking bullshit ekko needs nerfed right he's an assassin but his kit is so overloaded he builds full tank and does most damage on team.

Naag One8/19/2016, 11:35:18 AM4 votes

It'll start to matter once you know learn to build properly

Volcanuz8/19/2016, 1:56:39 PM4 votes

Please... Show me video evidence of you losing 1/4 of your health with 300 or so armor with 3k hp and ill suck your dick. Like seriously ill fly to you and suck your dick because i doubt anything you say is true.

If you are letting that person get sooooooooooooo fat and full item to the point they can do this, you freaking deserve to get 1/4 in 2 hits. Just absolutely stupid i can't believe this isn't a troll post.

Marshbouy8/19/2016, 2:03:08 PM3 votes

Look dude. your post is bullshit. you said you had 500 armor and 3.5k hp. You also said that the enemy ADC is dealing 1/4 to 2/3 your health in 2 autos. That means the ADCs is dealing anywhere from 450 damage an auto (not that crazy) to 1.25k an auto (very crazy). That's pre mitigation too. Sorry bud, you are a fraud. Your post is fake. Get some real stats and get good at league.

Lord Galvatron8/19/2016, 2:42:06 PM3 votes

I think the issue here is that %HP damage is too readily available, and Thornmail is still a garbage item (since you need 350 min. armor to be the same as pre-changed thornmail, and flat DPS AD with no AR pen. is a thing of the past). You need a Tank with either a higher then normal damage output, or a Tank with multiple low CD methods of CC. In this meta you can't have a tank that just soaks up damage and nothing else.

Im The Jayce God8/19/2016, 8:09:26 AM2 votes

Build HP build.

item 3083 item 3053 item 3143 item 3102 item 3022 item 3071

Marshbouy8/19/2016, 3:23:03 PM2 votes

That's hilarious. you just downvoted me and didn't respond.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo8/19/2016, 12:27:42 PM2 votes

armor doesn't count vs magic damage or true damage. or %hp damage. it depends on what kind of ad damage you are facing. is it crit? is it hp% damage with ad damage like item 3153 or Vayne or is it mix damage from item 3124 item 3153 item 3031 item 3036 from a KogMaw cuz flat armor wont save you but then again you let KogMaw get to 6 items nothing is gonna save you

Succubús GF8/19/2016, 7:41:04 AM1 votes

item 3075

PermabannedGaren8/20/2016, 4:08:41 AM1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Sensual Singed,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=MIoJwKlu,comment-id=,timestamp=2016-08-19T07:31:12.064+0000)

Armor is the counter to ad dmg but how is it when i have over 500 armor and 3k hp that the enemy ad does 1/4 -2/3 my hp in 2 autos. Like you make it really fking hard to solo carry trash when no matter what i build the enemy adc will destroy me in 2 secs. so wtf do i actually build to counter this i've had no problem with being a tank in the past i feel the last whisper items should be nerfed or something like i feel i'd be better off going full dmg with the hope of one shotting enemy adc cause tank just means i do 0 dmg and die in 2 secs instead of 1.

You're a liar, and should be ashamed of yourself.

Ralanr8/19/2016, 1:30:26 PM1 votes

Remembers how quickly I die as Kled with no armor items

Yes.

Maximum Morde8/19/2016, 1:32:14 PM1 votes

Try tower diving without it and find out?

Marshbouy8/19/2016, 1:34:49 PM1 votes

500 armor and 3k hp

Yep. That's your problem. Any armor past 300 is close to useless, much better to stack health at that point. 3k hp is also almost nothing.

Bhagswag8/19/2016, 2:14:36 PM1 votes

Why am I not ever having these problems when I play tank?

TyrekGoldenspear8/19/2016, 3:22:09 PM1 votes

Stacking a crap ton of armor really only works on Rammus and Taric , but you still need raw health for the other sources of damage that will be coming your way.

Psi218/19/2016, 5:52:37 PM1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Sensual Singed,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=MIoJwKlu,comment-id=,timestamp=2016-08-19T07:31:12.064+0000)

Armor is the counter to ad dmg but how is it when i have over 500 armor and 3k hp that the enemy ad does 1/4 -2/3 my hp in 2 autos. Like you make it really fking hard to solo carry trash when no matter what i build the enemy adc will destroy me in 2 secs. so wtf do i actually build to counter this i've had no problem with being a tank in the past i feel the last whisper items should be nerfed or something like i feel i'd be better off going full dmg with the hope of one shotting enemy adc cause tank just means i do 0 dmg and die in 2 secs instead of 1.

Because Randuin's Omen and Frozen heart aren't built enough...

27.75% slow on an ADCs attack speed and 10% reduction in crits and 150 bonus armor and 500 + hp at a price of 5700 gold is just too much for you... am I right?

Oh wait you were use to January and when tanky dps had to use less than half a brain when they needed to do stupid broken damage with already broken sustain. Lets just rebuff the Cinderhulk!!!! So dumb...... *jesus

Fix tank items and then you can tone down dps.

It is stupid that most of our melee are the ones cracking Armor.

1.  Jarvan IV Jarvan IV's Dragon Strike reduces the armor of all enemies hit by 37 / 39.8 / 42.6 / 45.4 / 48.2% for 3 seconds.
2. Renekton's Slice and Dice, when empowered by having more than 50 Fury, Dice will reduce the armor of all enemies hit by 40.5 / 44 / 47.5 / 51 / 54.5% for 4 seconds.
3.  Sion's Roar of the Slayer reduces the armor of the target hit by 20% for 2.5 seconds.
4.  Trundle's Subjugate reduces the armor of his target by 44% to 58% in the next 4 seconds (the effect does not apply any stacks). The armor reduction lasts for another 4 seconds after the drain completes.
5.  Vi's Denting Blows reduces the target's armor by 44% for 4 seconds after every third consecutive hit.
6.  Wukong's Crushing Blow reduces the armor of the target hit by 37 / 40.5 / 44 / 47.5 / 51% for 3 seconds.
7.   Xin Zhao's Challenge reduces the armor of targets hit by his basic attacks or Audacious Charge.png Audacious Charge by 40.5% for 3 seconds. Only one target may be challenged at a given time. 
8.  Darius's Apprehend passive gains Armor penetration

And then there is stupid True damage on melee... like Irelia, Oalf, Cho, Garen, Darius...

Oh and then there is percent damage. But armor these champs up and they are unkillable... All kinda points at the problem with armor items.

Kinda makes you look at Riot balancing team and say... "do you guys have credentials, could I see them?"

MunchCrunchLunch8/19/2016, 7:29:08 PM1 votes

go full assassin on any champion. get one armor and one hp item to survive long enough to land a combo.

i started doing that on everyone now. fucking goin full tank.

playing malphite? get abyssal rylais rabadons and and ludens. tabis and randuins or frozen heart.

way better than being a usless ass malphite with an ult that does nearly no damage going tank standing in the middle of the team fight just to die 2-3 seconds later because your whole combo isn't enough to top the adc bt shield.

playing sion? get ghost blade and frozen mallet. and black cleaver. dead mans spirit visage and tabis. i'd take my chances in landing that Q that will chunk half the hp of anyone standing in it than depending on my enemy mistake of dodging my ult when am a tank because its prob the only think that i can do.

playing darius (i started doing this and it works very well. first hand experience). black cleaver. into death dance into whatever ad item after. and than sv dead mans and tabis. just dunk the adc with flash ignite Q ult and your golden.

playing amumu? finish cinerhulk. get rylais and liandries and abyssal . just ult in team fight and soak in damage while your cc is working.

the only champion that you should build full tank right now is rammus. thats it.

you go against ap you can easily infinitely tank them except a cpl. you go against ad your fucked. just build damage and try to burst them before they burst you.

there is 0 reason for me to play any full tank champion anymore.

TyroneWatermelon8/19/2016, 10:32:23 PM1 votes

not its not,every 50 Armor/Mr or 500 HP just delays your death by 0.5 sec. welcome to leeeg of legends