Why did he get buffed? He might have been weak in challenger but anywhere below high diamond he has replaced yasuo as one of the strongest mid laners as well as sporting a 50% ban rate which is rising, showing how obnoxious this champion is to play against.
Please Riot, I only play ranked now to avoid decay, don't make me quit normals too because stupid champs (yas, riven, jax, now zed) do stupid damage
heroikc5 votesIt was "compensation" for removing the passive AD bonus he gains from his ult.
Hemulen Magi2 votesIt was "compensation" for removing the passive AD bonus he gains from his ult.
Why isn't it "compensation" like Veigar and Mordekaiser got for the removal of DFG? Why do some champions get "compensation" while others get """compensation"""?
Saianna1 votesI remember how Veigar received compensation NERF for what was it.. his rework? Ah fun times :D
Light Burner1 votesI remember how Veigar received compensation NERF for what was it.. his rework? Ah fun times :D
Because what zed got was a nerf and a removal of an item doesnt mean you buff every champion that used the item to compensate. If you did that what was the point of removing the item???
Sirsir1 votesSome champions get tuned to work with certain items. Thats why compensation buffs are a thing. When other champs begin to abuse those items in a way that can't be easily handled THATS when they remove items
Ahri was so reliant on it its effect got worked into her kit for awhile
Malphite was never supposed to abuse it like he did. Tank kits that had access to that burst were toxic and had no counterplay.
Light Burner1 votesSome champions get tuned to work with certain items. Thats why compensation buffs are a thing. When other champs begin to abuse those items in a way that can't be easily handled THATS when they remove items
Ahri was so reliant on it its effect got worked into her kit for awhile
Malphite was never supposed to abuse it like he did. Tank kits that had access to that burst were toxic and had no counterplay.
https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/GkzHz4EA-kassadin-winrate-went-up-when-he-got-nerfed Heres a guy complaining that a champ got nerfed and his winrate went up. Winrate doesnt always correlate with champion strength.
Sirsir1 votesDid I say anything about winrate?
Light Burner1 votesDid I say anything about winrate?
"You left out the most important part, W cooldown lowered and he can now reactivate W from a larger range
It was clearly a buff, that's why his win and ban rates went up across the board"
Your message not mine.
Sirsir1 votesCheck usernames, I think you're talking to the wrong person.
My comment was on why compensation buffs exist and why items get removed. I'm not talking about Zed specifically
Light Burner1 votesCheck usernames, I think you're talking to the wrong person.
My comment was on why compensation buffs exist and why items get removed. I'm not talking about Zed specifically
You're right I checked the icons and saw them both blue and the original poster sorry about that.
Light Burner1 votesCheck usernames, I think you're talking to the wrong person.
My comment was on why compensation buffs exist and why items get removed. I'm not talking about Zed specifically
Again i wanted to say Im sorry Sirsir i meant to send the winrate/ban rate thing to titanium's post and i think i was in a game and rush replied it to yours.
Sirsir1 votesShit happens [slayer-jinx-catface]
Emo Twink5 votesAssassin's shouldn't even be that good high up. They rely on picking people out of position, where people higher up shouldnt be. Constantly buffing them when they aren't good higher up just causes issues down lower where theyre already unfun to play against.
Light Burner1 votes[{quoted}](name=YoRHa 9S,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=MHuI9iOY,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-03-01T04:10:53.386+0000)
Assassin's shouldn't even be that good high up. They rely on picking people out of position, where people higher up shouldnt be. Constantly buffing them when they aren't good higher up just causes issues down lower where theyre already unfun to play against.
When did he get buffed? That you're saying "constantly" the changes that just came out were nerfs and slice of life changes.
FlameHalbrdOkido2 votesthey should update him to include a delay in his burst and increase his skill floor
Zed genius1 votesYeah this is true, i was thinking of a 3 second delay on the death mark pop
FlameHalbrdOkido1 votes[{quoted}](name=Zed genius,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=MHuI9iOY,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-03-01T21:07:48.169+0000)
Yeah this is true, i was thinking of a 3 second delay on the death mark pop
Thats a fake delay, becuase there's nothing u ca do once the mark and damage has been applied, he needs a delay like most other assassins that occurs b4 the majority of dmg comes thru
Light Burner2 votesWhy do you call something a buff when its not a buff and id even go as far as to call it a small nerf. His w changes were slice of life changes. He gained 10 dmg plus 10 percent of his ad on his Q which would be at best 40 ad overall 50 ad increase on his Q. He lost 15% of the ad he gained with his ult which on a 200 ad carry that would be 30 ad for his Q that would mean 27 dmg so he gained 23 dmg on his q to compensate for the loss of at least 30 ad on all his auto attacks and E. How is this a buff in your opinion????
Regality1 votesYou left out the most important part, W cooldown lowered and he can now reactivate W from a larger range
It was clearly a buff, that's why his win and ban rates went up across the board
Light Burner1 votesYou left out the most important part, W cooldown lowered and he can now reactivate W from a larger range
It was clearly a buff, that's why his win and ban rates went up across the board
You mean by 2 seconds so he can cast his W 1 extra time every 3 mins and 30 seconds if hes constantly casting it non stop?
Titanium701 votesDude... if Win- Pick- and Ban-Rate increase after a change it was most obviously a buff. Period.
Light Burner1 votesDude... if Win- Pick- and Ban-Rate increase after a change it was most obviously a buff. Period.
https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/GkzHz4EA-kassadin-winrate-went-up-when-he-got-nerfed Heres a guy complaining that a champ got nerfed and his winrate went up. Winrate doesnt always correlate with champion strength.
ff 20 please ty1 votesThey update with high ranking players (Master's and above) but you are right i dont feel he needed a buff
Light Burner1 votes[{quoted}](name=im faker btw,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=MHuI9iOY,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-03-01T01:41:42.644+0000)
They update with high ranking players (Master's and above) but you are right i dont feel he needed a buff
He didnt get a buff tho. If anything it was closer to a nerf and his W was a slice of life change.
The thigh guy1 votesThey should force him to wait until he gets a kill to snap back to his ult shadow. :/ make the braindeads that play him have to think a tiny bit.
Light Burner2 votes[{quoted}](name=The thigh guy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=MHuI9iOY,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-03-01T10:59:23.578+0000)
They should force him to wait until he gets a kill to snap back to his ult shadow. :/ make the braindeads that play him have to think a tiny bit.
So you're saying he should have no way of surviving in a teamfight if he has to kill a carry???
The thigh guy1 votes[{quoted}](name=Light Burner,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=MHuI9iOY,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2019-03-02T21:40:19.228+0000)
So you're saying he should have no way of surviving in a teamfight if he has to kill a carry???
Um what? No. I’m saying he should have to think before he just charges at an ad unlike not where he can just nope out at any second.
If zed dives in 1v5 he should die. Ever time. Without fail. Atm he can dive in 1v5, realize it was a mistake and then just teleport back to where he started. It’s stupid af.
Light Burner1 votes[{quoted}](name=The thigh guy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=MHuI9iOY,comment-id=000400000000,timestamp=2019-03-02T22:13:57.870+0000)
Um what? No. I’m saying he should have to think before he just charges at an ad unlike not where he can just nope out at any second.
If zed dives in 1v5 he should die. Ever time. Without fail. Atm he can dive in 1v5, realize it was a mistake and then just teleport back to where he started. It’s stupid af.
Then you're also implying that zed shouldnt have the intial dely on his ultimate where he becomes untargetable. Is that correct?
The thigh guy1 votes[{quoted}](name=Light Burner,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=MHuI9iOY,comment-id=0004000000000000,timestamp=2019-03-02T22:22:17.300+0000)
Then you're also implying that zed shouldnt have the intial dely on his ultimate where he becomes untargetable. Is that correct?
You mean the animation that actually makes him reactable? :/
Light Burner1 votes[{quoted}](name=The thigh guy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=MHuI9iOY,comment-id=00040000000000000000,timestamp=2019-03-03T01:29:36.025+0000)
You mean the animation that actually makes him reactable? :/
Yea otherwise theres too much to prep to lock him down and he cant go back to his shadow and do his dmg with his shadows.
manolis2011 votes[{quoted}](name=The thigh guy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=MHuI9iOY,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-03-01T10:59:23.578+0000)
They should force him to wait until he gets a kill to snap back to his ult shadow. :/ make the braindeads that play him have to think a tiny bit.
They already did that in season 6 and it was a massive fail no thanks.
The thigh guy1 votesThey already did that in season 6 and it was a massive fail no thanks.
I’m gonna need some proof of that one. Because I was playing all of s6 and didn’t see anything like that.
The only changes to his ult in s6 was the bonus ad stealing portion and the indicators for the snap back on his shadows.
manolis2011 votes[{quoted}](name=The thigh guy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=MHuI9iOY,comment-id=000400010000,timestamp=2019-03-13T00:57:06.976+0000)
I’m gonna need some proof of that one. Because I was playing all of s6 and didn’t see anything like that.
The only changes to his ult in s6 was the bonus ad stealing portion and the indicators for the snap back on his shadows.
Lmao its on wiki its called Reactivation delay reduced from 1 second to 0.5 on his R.
The thigh guy1 votesLmao its on wiki its called Reactivation delay reduced from 1 second to 0.5 on his R.
That’s a reduction. They made it FASTER. Meaning they buffed it. Smh.
manolis2011 votes[{quoted}](name=The thigh guy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=MHuI9iOY,comment-id=00040001000000000000,timestamp=2019-03-13T02:51:29.633+0000)
That’s a reduction. They made it FASTER. Meaning they buffed it. Smh.
Ye normally it was 0.5 and they changed it to 1.0 then back to 0.5 thats what i mean cause the idea was bad.
ORB1TS1 votesHe was terrible early game and GREAT late game they wanted to change that. And his w range needed to be updated it felt clunky.
manolis2011 votesLol Get Gud.. He just been buffed not even 1 month ago and you re the only one starts complaining about the champ when he was gutted by those big nerfs ghostcrawler did for a year with 90% bonus AD ratio as damage what? lol do u even know what that is bruh?
He deserved the W buffs and (AS) deal with it.
And lastly the same thing happened with Neeko and then she was at 43% winrate after a instant nerf from complains from 50% and players wanted to try something stronger like adc on her with Zed you cant try anything else lol please cut the bs he was already very weak for a year already.
P.S i have 0 problems versus Zed and i play without armor on ranked for fun cause ranked is horrible the state it is right now. ;)