Was I wrongfully chat banned? (Chat logs inside)

Regality·Sep 8, 2018·3 votes·3,960 views

I'll provide my chat logs below with context, because I feel that the automated system must have taken it out of context. I was Lucian with support Morgana, and the two main people I clashed with this game were jg Gragas and mid Vel koz.

Game 1 In-Game Regality: teH pAst iS JuSt A GhOsT Regality: wp Regality: lul

(at this point, I get a pick on the enemy cait and morg arrives and we kill leona together. Gragas and Vel go off and die, and Gragas flames both of us, calling us blind)

Regality: uh Regality: we fighting leo Regality: ?? Regality: i killed cait Regality: then morg and i killed leo Regality: u guys went off and died Regality: not my probelem Regality: why would i want to stay with u Regality: u fucking suck mat

(to be fair I was a bit belligerent here with the "u fkin suck", but i was ticked off that Gragas had just flamed me and wanted me to stick by him even though there was a clear reason that I was bot during this time)

Regality: hahahah Regality: report gragas flame lmao Regality: 'i hope your mum is dead you son of a bitch' -gragas 2k18

(Yes, among other things, he actually said this. He proceeded to go afk, though later we found out it was just a dc)

Regality: this bs snare Regality: report gragas afk Regality: and flame Regality: lmao

(at this point vel koz gets really angry at me for not being grouped up, I think I was splitpushing bot lane, and he calls me an idiot. After I tell him I don't care, he asks me if I am stupid and rertarded. My reply was childish, but not entirely unwarranted.)

Regality: idc what u say Regality: ? Regality: are u a feeder Regality: wait yes Regality: gragas reported :^) Regality: sure bud go ahead

(vel flames morg for "always stealing kills", and I jump to her defence and tell him to shut up because she's the only other player playing well and I feel the flame is undeserved)

Regality: stfu vel Regality: nah bud Regality: lmfao

(This next part was aimed at the enemy team after they 5 man ganked me splitpushing and allowed the rest of my team to power through mid and take the inhib and ultimately the nexus - bit of silly banter)

Regality: gg noobs Regality: bye bye inhib Regality: why are u so bad Regality: ikr

This is my first time being chat banned, ever, and I've seen so much worse than this that's gone unpunished. Earlier this season, I got a temp ban for hate speech, which was entirely justified after some offensive jokes in poor taste, and I've been trying to improve my behaviour since and raise my honour level back to level 2. I feel that the chat ban and the honour reset aren't really warranted by this one bad game of minor belligerence, most of which is actually just me REPLYING to toxic people. I know now to just mute and play, but I want to hear other thoughts on whether the chat ban was justified and whether I might be able to appeal it.

16 Comments

AnAggravatedPimpSep 8, 20184 votes

Constantly asking for reports and spamming the chat. Two things worthy of a ban. You should hav just muted the Gragas, played the game and reported him post game since 1 report has the same weight as 9, and vise/versa, in the current system

RegalitySep 8, 20182 votes

Yes I should have done all those things, and I think that's how I'll play it in the future, but imo this isn't close to chat spam and I don't know about your definition of 'constantly', I asked 3 times over a period of something like 15 minutes

AnAggravatedPimpSep 8, 20182 votes

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Yes I should have done all those things, and I think that's how I'll play it in the future, but imo this isn't close to chat spam and I don't know about your definition of 'constantly', I asked 3 times over a period of something like 15 minutes

You didn't need to ask at all. You apparently did so enough times to warrent someone reporting you though so keep that in mind as to avoid future punishment.

Hextech OwISep 8, 20184 votes

Regality: u fucking suck mat Regality: hahahah Regality: report gragas flame lmao Regality: report gragas afk Regality: and flame Regality: gragas reported :^) Regality: stfu vel Regality: gg noobs Regality: bye bye inhib Regality: why are u so bad

Constant negativity and flaming. Deserved.

RegalitySep 8, 20181 votes

Not sure how that came across as negativity? I was shrugging off the flame so that I could carry the game (which we did win)

CharDeeMcDennizSep 8, 20181 votes

mute works well for that too

then you wont have to look foolish coming here saying your punishment was undeserved

Kei143Sep 8, 20182 votes

You aren't shrugging off flame when you are asking for reports and calling other people noobs.

Besides why do you even ask for reports? More reports dont get someone punished faster, as the system treats 1 report the same as 9 reports. So your reasoning for asking for reports is in hope that someone will get punished, thus it is considered harassment.

If you are really shrugging off flame, the best you can do is to tell them that what they are doing isn't cool and educate that they can get punished for it. If they still dont listen, then don't get hung up on it. You are here to play a game, not argue on who is right.

VoldymortSep 8, 20181 votes

I like how you think that the context of "why" you were toxic somehow negates your toxicity

[slayer-jinx-unamused]

and I've seen so much worse than this

It's not a contest

RegalitySep 8, 20181 votes

I once had a Yi say "stfu" every time someone told him gj or wp

I told Vel Koz to "stfu" when he flamed my support who was playing very well and did not deserve it

How can you say context doesn't affect the situation?

In fact in your next line you are taking my words out of context - I am asking where the line is drawn, since some people get away with much more.

VoldymortSep 8, 20181 votes

How can you say context doesn't affect the situation?

Because there is no context in which being toxic was excusable. Other people being toxic does not magically make it ok for you to be toxic too.

since some people get away with much more.

But most people don't and those "some" that do, don't for long.

hrooza dota Sep 8, 20181 votes

you could have reported him and moved on but nah you had to insult and repeat his insult (i know repeating stuff like kys can insta ban you so the mother line could also be part of the reason)

Ada WongSep 8, 20181 votes

Instead of Insulting.

If a player follows me around after being asked to stop, I just press B and wait for them to stop, just kill a minion or something walking out so you don't get flagged as afk, eventually they will have to stop, but the game will be impacted into a 3v5 and u likely lose then just report the troll.

If a jungler keeps intentionally feeding your lane / griefing, just leave lane mute your chat and pings and let enemy take, this will allow the enemy to Roam, get ahead everyone in Gold and easily tilt your team. Obviously this is different if your a ranged class and can actually hold it.

You don't have to stay with a toxic player I don't.

If I see toxic I disable chat, and pings if they are not pinged EXACTLY as I would use them often people ping spam

Never been banned for not caring about a game when people troll then reporting for griefing, just don't intentionally feed, and don't talk in chat.

Guardian DevilSep 9, 20181 votes

My advice to you is to /mute all at the beginning of your games. That way maybe, just maybe you'll keep your sanity while playing this game.

HaseLoverSep 9, 20181 votes

considering the situation i dont believe you should get a bann. This community especially on the board is really hypocritical they are the type that when confronted in real life by anything wont stand up for what they believe in. Clearly you weren't flaming somebody out of no reason and that should be considered in my opinion

FegoneSep 10, 20181 votes

Regality: u fucking suck mat

Regality: 'i hope your mum is dead you son of a bitch' -gragas 2k18

Regality: stfu vel

Regality: gg noobs

Regality: why are u so bad

All this doesn't need context. Don't be toxic, and you won't get banned. Don't cry on the forums like a baby when Riot punishes you, you're the one breaking the rules. Just don't be ugly to other people and this would NEVER happen. Is it that hard not to be a dick?

Punishment justified.