So tristana is my favorite adc, but I don't perform super well with her. Since I'm not going to stop playing my favorite character in the game, does anyone have any tips on how to play her better?
I usually build zeal then b.f. sword, and usually aim for the towers. It was only yesterday when I found out that she could reset her rocket jump with her mine.
HeeroTX2 votesTristana is best!
midnight oil241 votesYeah. Got the halloween skin, but not actually a big fan of dragon trainer.
These are pretty good tips. Thank you for taking the time to answer this!
And she really is the best!
Mountain Warden2 votesI definitely second the not jumping in part. Unless you're at the end of a team fight where you know there's only one opponent left trying to run away with low health to save their skin, you almost never use jump offensively. Always save it as an escape.
I disagree about her early game all-ins being good. She's one of the weaker ADCs early game so just focus on CS and rush IE. Besides her auto attacks hitting really hard late game, the thing that makes Tristana so good is her range. But that only scales with level and you can't do much about it but wait t'ill you hit mid/late game to exploit that.
The two mistakes I see most often with people playing trist is that they jump INTO a fight and then get caught with no escape. And second, they focus too much on AS. You've got one of the strongest AS steroids in the game so just focus on obtaining massive AD, crit and lifesteal.
midnight oil241 votesokey doke. Thank you1
Tilt Thru Time1 votesDon't forget your ult during fights as it has 300 base damage. You can win early fights if you can get a full bomb but i recommend letting your support handle the aggression. Other than that get good at farming i guess.
midnight oil241 votesOkay. I'm often hesitant to use my ult earlier on because it knocks my enemies back so far, but I'll give it more consideration. I'm trying so hard to be good at farming, but so often I get supports who want cs too that It's a little hard to keep them from getting a ton of the cs.
Thanks for the advice!
zecastar1 votesTristana is weak now. Even her late game is nothing special. Why not pick Cait so you have similar safety but a stronger lane (650 level 1 range), more CC and a superior late game?
Also, never go Zeal before BF if you can afford it.
midnight oil241 votesI just find her more fun. Plus, while I'm nothing special in terms of combat, I do pretty well when taking down towers.
But yeah, I just want to git gud with trist.
Cresmont1 voteshey midnight :D I use the boards a lot but feel free to dm me on league :^)
couple basics you need to know about trist: why are you picking her?
so, the build is one of two ways from what ive seen
Burst build: trist is one of the burstiest ad carries (inb4 vayne)
zeal into a b.f, then go into a shiv, finish ie, get a deaths dance (my friends usually go deaths dance because it fill the purpose of blood thirster but is cheaper and the damage mitigation is usually more gold efficient than to get a bt, at least until late game) from here get what you need, last wisp, bt, etc
classic adc: this one if more teamfight oriented and can rly help mow down objectives
zeal, b.f, FINISH THE INFINITY FIRST (more combat efficient cuz all youre doing is pushing and shoving out the wave and getting drags, etc) from here its tricky.
Phantom dancer: attackspeed and dueling power
Runnans hurricane: absolutely NASTY in teamfights
Rapid Fire Cannon: when you need even more range on trist during those mid game sieges
from here usually get a bt and finish with ga and dd or ga with bt
I can give you more on the client if you want, I'm decent at the game :D last tip: learn how to rotate. Since you're still at lower level/ ranking, it is EXTREMELY beneficial to learn how to rotate, especially on trist. If you can snowball a lead and proceed to rotate and take towers while avoiding fights, most people don't know how to deal with it. Hope I helped :D
midnight oil241 votesFirst: we're already friends. Here's a hint: I ban ezreal, ms fortune, and zed.
Second, while I don't have any builds yet (I've been using the recommended build), I'll take your stuff into account. I'll pull up the client so we can talk.
Cresmont1 votes
Rivuo1 votes[{quoted}](name=midnight oil24,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=M9Y7Va1U,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2016-12-07T20:05:12.381+0000)
I just find her more fun. Plus, while I'm nothing special in terms of combat, I do pretty well when taking down towers.
But yeah, I just want to git gud with trist.
Shes just weak right now because the items she needs are too mid-late game for her. Just stick with it ur doing everything right
midnight oil241 votesOkay. But is there anything specific I should do?
Rivuo1 votes[{quoted}](name=midnight oil24,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=M9Y7Va1U,comment-id=0001000000010000,timestamp=2016-12-07T20:34:39.247+0000)
Okay. But is there anything specific I should do?
One thing i noticed is that tristanas kiting can be very difficult but rewarding
Pretty solid kiting i did but yeah work on that and make sure you itemize correctly.
For example the enemy team last game had exec calling and 2 people had ignite. Building bloodthirster was pretty useless at that point.
There is a limit to your skill as an ''adc'' as in theres only so much you can do so being 0-7 can either be your fault or entirely not your fault.
There are games where i go 6-0 in bot lane as adc but end up being 6-10 because the 3-0 leblanc.
Map awareness.
Generally you play a lot of adcs the same way but its the micro skills that make someone a better adc than the other.
Know your matchups
Know which supports tristana works good with.
midnight oil241 votesYeah. Tristana is actually a pretty skill-reliant champ. Thank you for taking the time to reply!
o0O Madoka O0o1 votesWell, last hitting and kiting should go without saying for practicing adc. Guides can be find on YouTube, it's easier to learn when you have visualize tutorial. I have not been playing adc for about half a year, but some basics should still work.
Other than that, she has two things that's different from most adc.
Her E passive. Her E passive can really screw up your last hitting if you're new to her. The way I handle it is, each passive is about one auto damage on all minions. There are two ways to di it, one is auto each of the ranged minion to the last hit, and kill all of them with one E passive; the other way is auto attack all minions to manipulate their health, making sure there are not two minions with the same hp. When you kill 1 minion, the other one should be immediately last hittable(but still high enough to survice minion attack) after the E passive.
Her W reset for cleaning up teamfight. Her E refreshes whenever you score a kill or assist, or when a fully stacked E explodes. Use these to reposition your self. I don't recommend going all in, jumping right to your auto range is mostly a wiser decision than jumping into melee range.
midnight oil241 votesYeah. I've been working on not going all in, though I'm used to playing tanks, so my mind tells me "go all in. you can tank this." I've been using it to jump so that I don't land directly on the enemy but can still do damage from it. So I shouldn't be getting that close?
Escheton1 votesTell your support to go Ohmwrecker. Both take sweepers. Run around the map and sneak towers.
Zelorxon1 votes-Afk farm until lv7 -Don't trade with the enemy adc unless he's killing himself -DON'T TRADE WITH THE ENEMY ADC -Rush a bf and then a runaan -As soon as you reach lv7 go afk pushing for the rest of the game (this is true for any champ, but for trist in particular) -Don't start any fight unless you have at least 4 items+boots -Stay at the edge of a teamfight and just dish out damage keeping your ult and jump EXCLUSIVELY for defensive purposes
midnight oil241 votesokey doke. Thank you!
Sohleks1 votesYou want to prioritize the BF sword over attack speed. Not the other way around. If you can afford the BF sword you get that as it is the hardest to save up for, slot efficient and more effective in combat than a zeal which needs AD and more attack speed to work well. Generally once you have BF sword you have the option to get attack speed. If you get BF and pickaxe you NEED to go attack speed now.
Tristana as a champion is a safe and all in type bot laner. She kinda falters in short trading because she has zero upfront damage without ultimate or stacking E. As a result Tristana works much much much better with supports that can hard cc foes for her to begin ramping E up and possibly commit to pouncing them. That's how she works. She is most effective with CC based kill supports
Once she has lead in lane she's hard to dislodge control from because she has great anti gank tricks and strong all in and tower damage + collateral damage
midnight oil241 votesokey doke. Thank you!
Cresmont1 votesdood, I fucking hate playing against Leona trist that lane is so aids
Sire Hippington1 votesTristana works best as an agressive snowballer in a killlane. Her early all-in is nearly unmatched, but she needs an agressive support like leona to really make it count. Most common mistake for tristanas is that they max E, play passively and then usually drop quite a bit duering midgame, another mistake is rushing zeal. If you don't have an all-in support or a premate that you trust enough for agressive plays, that is certainly a save solution, but it will always leave you with a lackluster midgame.
If you max W however, you get great all-in potential. W gets 50damage per rank, and it resets on fully proccing E, so you can use it twice in an all-in(so it gets 100damage/rank for all-ins), while it also gives alot mobillity and a really powerfull slow. Try to let the opponent push a bit, then jump on them, use E mid air and activate Q for the all in. Once you pop the E and et the W reset, you need to make a decision, either you jump back out and abort the all-in if you think it's not going to well, or you hold it back till your opponent blows his escapes and you need it to chase, or till you really need the extra damage to win the all-in.
All-ins are ofcurse always a bit risky and need some confidence, but there are few that can actually match her. And if you face a strong early laner like lucian or draven, you can wait till 6. Tris ult has a quite big basedamage, and the cc it offers shouldn't be underestimated, as well as the fact that it ads another stack on your E, allowing you to get the W reset faster. If ahead, tris can then bully most lanes as anyone pushing out of tower can just get all-ined again, she has alot tools to avoid ganks, and if she pushes up to the tower she can kill it quite fast and her E deals solid damage to nearby opponents. Also, once you're sure you win lane, you can switch from maxing W to maxing E. W max is just for the laneing all-ins, E gives more pushing power and teamfight aoe, Q gives more dps later on and also more tower damage.
For items, don't rush zeal, go straight for BF and pick up berserker's on the way for some AS. Her E has a great ad.-scaleing, and she already has alot as from Q, she doesn't need as from items that much, and with bersekers, her AS is high enough to stack up E rather reliably already. I like going essencereaver if i snowball as the cdr and manareturn allows for more agressive pushing with E. If i can't get a snowball, i rush IE to get teamfight damage as fast as possible. After that i usually get a zeal item(most of the time i go runaan's for teamfighting power and waveclear, though PD for better dueling and kiteing can be usefull aswell) followed by eihter IE or ER, which ever i didn't buy first. Her lategame damage comes mostly from AAs, so you want the crit. However, you already have alot AS from Q, so ad is better than as on her, thus i prefer IE+ER over double zeal. Another option, especially in setups that have little peel for you, is getting a frozen mallet and staying at 50% crit. You loose some damage, but that slow on your longranged AAs(even on aoe with hurricane) is really powerfull. Also, always remember that you can use E and R duering your W (not sure about Q, i use it befor W to make sure it's on), so if you find an oppsing squish running around alone, you can just jump at him and unload your shit befor he knows what happens, and depending on level(for AA range) and AS, you can shoot up to two AAs while they are knocked back from your ult. With some critluck, you can kill an opposing adc befor the CC of your ult wears off with close to fullgear.