"Just cc Them" -_-

WAZZZUP500·Sep 13, 2019·5 votes·1,688 views

Remember all those times when people would say that all you needed to do with op champs was to "just cc them"? Well, now everybody's playing a tank with a lot of cc, and no one is happy about it. Why? It's what these enlightened individuals told us to do, but now we aren't allowed to do it anymore.

God forbid any other tank becomes viable; then we'll be in "garbage tank meta" and the , etc. mains will all reeee until we go back to oneshot meta.

12 Comments

preternaturalSep 13, 20192 votes

nautilus is a disgusting champion, honestly. iunno how his kit stayed the same but we had to get sej's R and W and E reworked. you fucking kidding me.

mmoran5554Sep 13, 20192 votes

I love the Sejuani rework though. She rocks! And yes, Nautilus is godly too.

NaughtyWordSep 30, 20192 votes

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until we go back to oneshot meta.

When did we leave the oneshot meta? I musta missed that short patch period.

youngdragoSep 13, 20191 votes

Are you mad people are banning a natural counter to there champion?

WAZZZUP500Sep 13, 20194 votes

Nah i actually think its funny that as soon as a tank starts being played people ban them bc they can't oneshot it.

ZardoSep 13, 20193 votes

Erm no. People ban nautilus because he oneshots them with his absurd base damages and gargantuan hook hitbox.

RagnaveilSep 13, 20192 votes

Pretty true. I went against a Naut who went Relic, and I was Aatrox, and man did he kick my fucking balls in. Even if I landed my full combo, he still won the trades, even if I full stacked Conq and had Black Cleaver.

WAZZZUP500Sep 17, 20192 votes

for real? I must be playing nautilus wrong then cause i havent legit killed someone in just a single combo. The issue with his damage is mostly from his w and shield bash synergy; shield bash procs on autos and nautilus' shield is an aa reset. The synergy is just too good for him to not do damage with it.

ZT XperimentorSep 30, 20191 votes

Because everyone plays him critical strike right?

NaonSep 30, 20191 votes

He literally abuses the living heck out of aftershock and can easily win trades and gets a lot of free ap dmg for a tank. He was meant to be played in top lane and him finding his way into bot has made him a nightmare to fight as a hook sup. A click target knockup ult synergizes way too well in this meta with KaiSa being able to take full advantage of his kit.

WAZZZUP500Sep 30, 20191 votes

So what you're saying is that the problem isn't naut himself; it's that many popular botlane picks synergize with him?

L Psy KongrooSep 30, 20191 votes

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So what you're saying is that the problem isn't naut himself; it's that many popular botlane picks synergize with him?

As someone who plays a lot of Naut support, this is partially true. Many of the best ADCs right now synergize insanely well with Naut and can take advantage of his massive amount of cc: Kai'sa, Jhin, Vayne, Lucian, Cait, etc. All of these ADCs work very well with a tanky frontline behemoth that has a lot of cc and great burst damage. Cait and Lucian enjoy the stronger early game pressure (and Cait traps are easy to land on rooted targets), Kai'sa and Jhin offer great follow-up to Naut's engage power, and Vayne likes having someone to draw attention and keep people in one place while she stacks W.

Naut himself also offers a lot of things that other hook supports don't. He's tankier than Thresh early game, so he can force trades more often against poke supports. He's still useful if his Q misses, unlike Blitz. He does more damage than Pyke early on, meaning he can snowball the lane faster. That's not to say he beats these supports in ALL areas; Thresh has more utility, Blitz has better pick potential in the mid-game, and Pyke gradually out-scales him once he gets a few ults off. But with the game being so focused on early snowballing, and Naut's early-game being quite strong atm, this combined with his synergy with the popular ADC choices make him a strong generalist pick at all levels of play.