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Can we get that rework on Ahri w that was mentioned a year ago?

ShiroOkamiRabuTV··8 votes·3,548 views

She fine until higher elo where every one knows as long they have a way to deal with her charm she useless because every thing put on one ability and fizz is you're worst nightmare there legit nothing you can do but hope hes bad and doesn't know how to use his E because even if you try wait out his e he is on top of you and have taken the most damage you can from him if it hits because a lot fizz players max e and if you try charming before he uses it you're just SOL because every thing ahri need to survive is put on her e and her ult which one just moves you away from and gets put on a long cool down

like yasou you cant bait out yasou because you cant use w animation to try bait it out because animation deference but if you use q that half you're damage with e and if you use charm he can just all in you but he doesnt have massive gap closer and if you can dodge and place you self well enofe it isn't as bad a fizz but this is a example. ahri just needs more mechanics i dont want overloaded i just want something to learn to use mechanically to keep my self from having farm under a turret like a top lane player vs a pantheon and ahri don't farm to well under turret she fine in lower elo because people to stupid to understand that if there no way to land her e she just there useless. she doesn't need more damage just another cc that can deal with situations rather then getting rofl stomped by champions that can deal with the only ability that matters

id honestly rather loss damage if i could get something to deal with situations beside r+e

i know i should go into more detail but you need more thing keep you alive besides a cc and a mobility (thats a 2m and 10s cd level 1) i know i can heal but you have chunk you're mana and cd in order to do it its made for a trade not for all in's like Faker likes ahri just doesn't play her much like zed but now the zed buffs helped him

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Original Sin1 votes

Ahri is in a good spot. The w rework might leave her in a less desirable state. Just ban fizz or yasuo if you feel like you cant win lane/ outplay them. Ahri is one of the safest mid laners. She doesnt need more mobility or more safety. Faker doesnt play her much because she's a pretty one dimensional champion.

Ahri Baka1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Original Sin,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Llcb8Ro5,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-03-02T20:55:19.057+0000)

Ahri is in a good spot. The w rework might leave her in a less desirable state. Just ban fizz or yasuo if you feel like you cant win lane/ outplay them. Ahri is one of the safest mid laners. She doesnt need more mobility or more safety. Faker doesnt play her much because she's a pretty one dimensional champion.

Faker doesn't play her because she can't carry

Original Sin1 votes

She definitely can carry.

Ahri Baka1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Original Sin,realm=OCE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Llcb8Ro5,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-03-02T22:07:57.690+0000)

She definitely can carry.

Ye but not a carry like any other champion can do if you carried as 15/2 Ahri , you would have bee actually 30/1 on another champion

Original Sin2 votes

That's nonsense.

Arelina1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Kitsune Kawaii,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Llcb8Ro5,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-03-02T21:24:51.385+0000)

Faker doesn't play her because she can't carry

^Agreed and that is a fact. Look at why Shiphtur stopped playing her, Ik the dude loves playing her so this should mean something. Lcs players don't play her because shes unreliable. Sure you can charm 50/50 and turn, but unlike other champs, its not as reliable.

Ahri Baka1 votes

Ahri can't lose more damage her damage is already the lowest between all mid laners

Light Burner2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Hikari Sakata,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Llcb8Ro5,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-03-02T21:24:10.369+0000)

Ahri can't lose more damage her damage is already the lowest between all mid laners

Ahri does more dmg than zed if zed only lands 1 Q with his full combo vs her full combo. 911 dmg for ahri with her full combo 745 dmg for zed with his full combo. And hers is safely put out after charming and from range while zed has to put his out in 3 seconds. So i dont see how she has one of the lowest dmg between all mid laners. Lux's full combo deals 841 dmg. Again ahri's still being higher. These numbers are calculated at level 6 for all champions. So idk where you say her dmg is the lowest between all mid laners.

Ahri Baka1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Light Burner,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Llcb8Ro5,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-03-02T23:30:12.578+0000)

Ahri does more dmg than zed if zed only lands 1 Q with his full combo vs her full combo. 911 dmg for ahri with her full combo 745 dmg for zed with his full combo. And hers is safely put out after charming and from range while zed has to put his out in 3 seconds. So i dont see how she has one of the lowest dmg between all mid laners. Lux's full combo deals 841 dmg. Again ahri's still being higher. These numbers are calculated at level 6 for all champions. So idk where you say her dmg is the lowest between all mid laners.

You said it if Zed lands 1 Q , Zed isn't supposed to land 1 Q and call it a play he is a champion that can land up to 3 Q's he has to land at least 2 Q's and don't forget that his E cd is short and while fighting , his full combo is 2 E's not only 1 , and don't forget he is an AD champion , with stronger basic attacks and don't forget that his Ignite and Electrocute scales on his Ult damage

Lux still auto attacks after each spell to be called a full combo

and I doubt that Ahri does 911 lol

Light Burner1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Hikari Sakata,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Llcb8Ro5,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2019-03-02T23:34:25.493+0000)

You said it if Zed lands 1 Q , Zed isn't supposed to land 1 Q and call it a play he is a champion that can land up to 3 Q's he has to land at least 2 Q's and don't forget that his E cd is short and while fighting , his full combo is 2 E's not only 1 , and don't forget he is an AD champion , with stronger basic attacks and don't forget that his Ignite and Electrocute scales on his Ult damage

Lux still auto attacks after each spell to be called a full combo

and I doubt that Ahri does 911 lol

Ahri: 1 auto attack:65 Q: 292 W: 128 E: 96 R: 110 per dash Total dmg: 911

Zed: 1 auto attack:130 Q:291 W:291 E:175 R:149 for 1 q 222 for 2 q Total:745 for 1 q 1109 for 2 q

Lux: 1 auto: 66 Q:133 W:shield E:204 R:438 Total:841

theres the math feel free to double check it. Assumed Ludens for ap and Duskblade for ad Btw zed only has dmg no cc so its only fair hes given more dmg in his kit but it comes with more skill to land it all. Lux cant auto more than once if she wants to get her ult off on a snared target. And i didnt even count the amount of autos ahri could weave in between in her abilities if i did instead of 1 auto for 65, you're looking at an auto after q cast, after every ult cast, and before casting ult for 5 potential autos for 325 dmg instead of the 65 i took into account. So i wouldnt go down the auto path if you want to make ahri look like she does less dmg.

Light Burner1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Hikari Sakata,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Llcb8Ro5,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2019-03-02T23:34:25.493+0000)

You said it if Zed lands 1 Q , Zed isn't supposed to land 1 Q and call it a play he is a champion that can land up to 3 Q's he has to land at least 2 Q's and don't forget that his E cd is short and while fighting , his full combo is 2 E's not only 1 , and don't forget he is an AD champion , with stronger basic attacks and don't forget that his Ignite and Electrocute scales on his Ult damage

Lux still auto attacks after each spell to be called a full combo

and I doubt that Ahri does 911 lol

And btw zed "buffs" werent "buffs" he actually lost dmg overall and got a slice of life change on his W.

Edit: If you want the numbers on that too we can do that as well since it doesnt seem like you care about the actual numbers and just how you feel about the champion.

Ahri Baka1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Light Burner,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Llcb8Ro5,comment-id=0001000000000001,timestamp=2019-03-02T23:52:24.439+0000)

And btw zed "buffs" werent "buffs" he actually lost dmg overall and got a slice of life change on his W.

Edit: If you want the numbers on that too we can do that as well since it doesnt seem like you care about the actual numbers and just how you feel about the champion.

Oh so the argument ended up being being Zed is weak at the end like most of Zed mains taking his buffs as nerfs

dude for the love of god , what the hell is the logic are you using ?

I already explained what Zed can do Ahri dash doesn't do 110 damage and she uses her first dash to gap close anyway

Why the hell are you assuming that Ahri can get an item that costs 3200 gold and 2900 gold at level 6 ? Like , this argument is BS and impossible , not even comparable , Ludens costs 3200 gold Duskblade costs 2900 - 350 ( because you start long sword anyway ) an argument comparing an item that costs 3200 gold to 2550 gold is BS and you forgot to add that Duskblade passive gives extra damage for an auto

Light Burner1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Hikari Sakata,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Llcb8Ro5,comment-id=00010000000000010000,timestamp=2019-03-03T00:14:47.023+0000)

Oh so the argument ended up being being Zed is weak at the end like most of Zed mains taking his buffs as nerfs

dude for the love of god , what the hell is the logic are you using ?

I already explained what Zed can do Ahri dash doesn't do 110 damage and she uses her first dash to gap close anyway

Why the hell are you assuming that Ahri can get an item that costs 3200 gold and 2900 gold at level 6 ? Like , this argument is BS and impossible , not even comparable , Ludens costs 3200 gold Duskblade costs 2900 - 350 ( because you start long sword anyway ) an argument comparing an item that costs 3200 gold to 2550 gold is BS and you forgot to add that Duskblade passive gives extra damage for an auto

https://leagueoflegends.fandom.com/wiki/Ahri

Ahri Baka1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Light Burner,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Llcb8Ro5,comment-id=000100000000000100000000,timestamp=2019-03-03T00:21:11.605+0000)

https://leagueoflegends.fandom.com/wiki/Ahri

nice argument over there lmao

Light Burner1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Hikari Sakata,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Llcb8Ro5,comment-id=0001000000000001000000000000,timestamp=2019-03-03T00:27:05.480+0000)

nice argument over there lmao "ahri's ult doesnt do 110 dmg per dash" do the math you wont believe me so do it yourself you're in denial.

Commader Kiwi1 votes

you've never seen late game ahri

Ahri Baka1 votes

{quoted}

you've never seen late game ahri

Ye her late game can kill anyone with her full combo Like any other champion in the game

Commader Kiwi1 votes

Well yes, but her true damage part is nice, because mr doesnt really affect her late game. Not to mention her mobility with her ult. I dont think she's in a bad spot tbh.. I might main her after I master kat

Ahri Baka1 votes

{quoted}

Well yes, but her true damage part is nice, because mr doesnt really affect her late game. Not to mention her mobility with her ult. I dont think s,, he's in a bad spot tbh.. I might main her after I master kat

Idk tho but , I'm pretty sure last time I reached late game and was overfed , couldn't even 1v1 a Quinn with item 3156 depsite hitting everything with ignite

Commader Kiwi1 votes

Trust me, if you think that its bad with Ahri, try kat.. its worse.. Thats why I think Ahri is still decent

Ahri Baka1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Prestiged Kat ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Llcb8Ro5,comment-id=000100010000000000000000,timestamp=2019-03-17T16:43:00.938+0000)

Trust me, if you think that its bad with Ahri, try kat.. its worse.. Thats why I think Ahri is still decent

I play Kat too , In the first place I didn't say Ahri is that bad , just said her damage is the lowest , but doesn't mean she is bad

Commader Kiwi1 votes

I guess Ap champs just needs some work

Mavëríck1 votes

I think her W should be either an aoe blast like Vlad, or a point and click.

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