@riot ricklessabandon - Karma is a primary mage, please consider this.

Awoof·5/14/2015, 11:08:09 PM·7 votes·653 views

Just a friendly reminder for you that Karma is a primary mage and secondary support, like Orianna or Lux. And that this was the plan when she was reworked. Ask scarizard. I write this because your PBE changes make me worried you might have discarded this point.

"the goal is to make her feel better as a support, so hopefully stronger!" Every change that would make solo lane Karma feel worse would be a change against her design I think.

3 Comments

Avious5/15/2015, 3:25:39 PM1 votes

As a midlane Karma player I hated every part of them... I doubt they will reconsider, but keep posting for awereness.

Dr Poro5/15/2015, 3:46:48 PM1 votes

I didn't know this actually... I always thought of Karma as a support that used to be abused in top lane (like Lulu).

So you've got a good point here...

However... I think that Riot doesn't intend mage to be a mid/top role. They have often explained in the past (about teambuilder) that they don't want to tie any roles to any lanes. Teemo is a Marksman, but his primary lane (decided by playerbase, but also a bit directed by Riot) is top, not bot. Leona is also primary tank, secondary support. The difference here that there is not a lane that shouts out "tanks here" the way that mid lane is considered as "mages here". You can argue about whether or not it makes sense to go against the common assumption that mages belong in mid (or top) or not. But I think Riot's opinion is: yes.

(btw I'm not discussing about whether or not the karma rework is good as I'm not familiar with her, just debating on the argument that seems brilliant at first but could be countered with another interpretation of the roles)

Kaipop5/15/2015, 8:49:06 PM1 votes

I really hope they don't nerf my main, Karma who is very balanced as is. I think she's amazing right now, I don't want ANY changes.