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Warding and Support

IH8U2D34TH·10/25/2018, 1:44:29 PM·1 votes·1,200 views

A few suggestions to make supporting feel less like herpes. First, can we get 1 ward with our basic support item. The issue I'm having is that champs like, Shyvana, Yi, WW, Udyr (and more) are doing solo dragons at 7 minutes, and I don't have the wards yet to keep vision on it. I know what your gonna say "it's the whole team's job", well guess what they barely have the trinkets to keep vision on their own lanes. Half the time I gotta ping the ADC to get him to ward river, because my trinket is on cooldown and they don't pay attention. Having Shyvana for example just take the dragon at 7 minutes, and hearing that sound, is oppressive. Every time it happens I just sigh knowing there wasn't anything I could do. I can't put my trinket out there because that leaves them open to blast cone into the river bush at bot and there are a lot of champs I NEED to keep the lane bushes warded against (looking at you pyke). Support really can't be running around alone in river early game doing that stuff anyway, you'll die. I NEED MORE EARLY WARDS!

Also, can you give the fully upgraded support item a passive 15% bonus to ward casting range. I can't tell you how many times I've died because I went to ward a bush and one of the 50 champions that can leap or cc at the same range I can reach to place a ward, jump out of the bush and get a free kill. I also can't tell you how many times I've had the whole team trash talking me because it happened. It is especially bad when your team is behind, you've lost your outer towers, you're trying to keep vision in your jungle, but doing so just makes you an easy kill, its very unsatisfying. If you don't take the risk you're letting your team down by not fulfilling your role.

11 Comments

MalrothDragonia10/25/2018, 2:01:08 PM1 votes

Couple things, one, increasing ward range for supports is not gonna happen. There is a risk involved in going to ward alone, keeping track of where the other team might be is important, and is part of the general skill set to being a player, not just a support

Second, as to your frustration over dragon, couple recommendations, one is to help your jungle secure bottom scuttle crab, it gets your jungler more gold & xp, and will help you maintain dragon vision. Another tip would be to watch some pro games and see how they use their early wards, might help you with some clever placement that will both cover your lane and an early dragon attempt.

Oleandervine10/25/2018, 2:08:01 PM1 votes

Fun Fact - Very few champions can get to the river bush without first passing by the dragon pit or the bottom side tribush next to the dragon pit.

Therefore, if you place a ward in the general area where the crab's speed shrine usually pops ups, that wards the dragon pit, wards that entrance from the upper side jungle that leads to the blue buff there, and it will give you plenty of warning for any junglers who may be trucking down the river for a bot lane gank. As I implied above, that will just leave the lower side tribush vulnerable, but very rarely do jungles actively gank from that bush, even if they control the side of the map it's on.

Lord Guan10/25/2018, 2:40:59 PM1 votes

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OtterlyLost10/25/2018, 3:19:05 PM1 votes

You can kill two birds with one stone by warding over the wall near the blast cone; assuming you're ranged or that you have a marksmen bot lane, you can pop the blast cone from river, preventing a jungler from popping over the wall into the brush. This ward also alerts you that the jungler is in the area and is pathing toward river and dragon.

DontTouchMyBall10/25/2018, 9:24:49 PM1 votes

I wouldn't mind +1 early ward, but I just don't see that happening, ever. Specially considering that in higher elos it would really mess up some very early game junglers.

Meanwhile, one of the good things my support Orianna offers is a decent amount of vision with Her Ball. I'm able to put the ward faraway from the lane and still manage to ward our lane's bush or the river's bush with the help of Her reliabe pet, The Ball.