If I'm oom and you see me going back to base or I tell you I'm doing so,
Please be careful in the lane until I get back, don't be brave and try to pull some 1v2 stuff or go too far into the lane.
We don't need a 
or a 
grabbing you and giving the enemy ADC a kill.
Sciaphobia2333 votes
FOR NARNIA!!!!!
"An ally has been slain"
Duchess of Deer6 votesIF he was fed it would go like this
FOR NARNIA!!!
DOUBLE KILL!!
Raja Chachki8 votesBUT....since he was free last week all I ever got were stupid feeding Graves :)
Sciaphobia231 votes[{quoted}](name=Hudson Gaga,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=LYHZNwwq,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2015-01-19T19:58:41.103+0000)
BUT....since he was free last week all I ever got were stupid feeding Graves :)
Bingo, thats exactly it lol.
LookAtMeNow2 voteswhen the q lands pt 2.
Zirzon5 votes Lerooooooy Jeeeenkins!!!
"An ally has been slain"
Lao Fu the Tiger7 votes
"An ally has been slain"
Ironically one of my friends I play with regularly has the name Leeeroy Jenkins and plays Graves a fair amount. He has suicidal tendencies in game.
Mannysmoker1 votes
DoFr7 votessome ADC need to udnderstand, that when your support is recalling or at base, you need to stop last hitting, and get in a Range where you're Safe, and still getting EXP, and if that is not possible, then stay at tower, and don't Farm. you'd Rather have no farm for a short period of time, rather than having no farm for an extended period of time (being Dead) and giving the enemy a kill ahead.
just because you can't notice how much the support helps, and how much threat they pose, doesn't mean you get to go screwing the progress the bot lane is making.
QuantumLight2 votesi like to b when my sup b regardless of gold... unless they other team left then its free farm for me :D then my sup is usually the one soloing the lane before i get back...
disregardable6 votesCan we just talk about how much I hate when supports do that? Seriously, I understand if you just got the shit beat out of you at level 3, but if I'm 300 gold away from my BF sword and you're oom, why don't you just wait with me for a few waves? Their support is probably oom or about to be oom anyway, there's no reason you need to leave me exposed when I need to farm.
SecretAgentHulk25 votesYou can't farm under tower for 30 seconds while I go back and get mana and a Sightstone?
EDIT: besides you're AFK anyway :P
redniwediS3 votesThis right here is why I take Teleport as often as I can as a support. Early on I often hit a point where I feel if I don't back I will be more of a detriment in lane than a help, yet my ADC refuses to back before that BF sword. If Exhaust is not 100% required for a given match I will take Teleport, so that I can back far more often for wards and what not while my ADC safely farms in lane, knowing even when I've backed I'm only 3 seconds away.
Erockandroll9 votesThis right here is why I take Teleport as often as I can as a support. Early on I often hit a point where I feel if I don't back I will be more of a detriment in lane than a help, yet my ADC refuses to back before that BF sword. If Exhaust is not 100% required for a given match I will take Teleport, so that I can back far more often for wards and what not while my ADC safely farms in lane, knowing even when I've backed I'm only 3 seconds away.
The biggest problem with this is that it really only helps you during the laning phase. Really only a top lane/split pusher is going to get the greatest benefit from Teleport.
But I digress, this is Yolo queue. where Any actual counter play and team balance gets replaced with, "Who is the Biggest Cheese?"
redniwediS5 votesI can't tell you the number of times my support Taric soloed the enemy jungler in yolo queue. it's such a grab bag that sometimes everything works.
It Hertz When IP4 votesThis right here is why I take Teleport as often as I can as a support. Early on I often hit a point where I feel if I don't back I will be more of a detriment in lane than a help, yet my ADC refuses to back before that BF sword. If Exhaust is not 100% required for a given match I will take Teleport, so that I can back far more often for wards and what not while my ADC safely farms in lane, knowing even when I've backed I'm only 3 seconds away.
Except that if you take teleport as a support, everyone on your team goes into full "wtf-bronze-retard" bitch mode. Like back in season 1 (2?) I would go duo bot with a friend and take Smite as Soraka. This being back when Smite applied spell vamp, I would always get spell vamp on her, Smite the cannon minion to restore my health, and he would finish it off for the CS. It had better healing over time with 10+ spellvamp than the Heal summoner spell did and let me keep my heal ability off CD in case he got in trouble. It worked perfectly, except I had to endure endless bitching from the other players all game about what a retard I must be. Because everyone "knew" that Smite was only for Junglers.
redniwediS3 votesThat's not what I've seen, but League does have a very large playerbase. Here's hoping you end up meeting the people I keep getting matched with.
agbudar2 votes[{quoted}](name=The AFK Farmer,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=LYHZNwwq,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2015-01-19T17:01:46.123+0000)
Can we just talk about how much I hate when supports do that? Seriously, I understand if you just got the shit beat out of you at level 3, but if I'm 300 gold away from my BF sword and you're oom, why don't you just wait with me for a few waves? Their support is probably oom or about to be oom anyway, there's no reason you need to leave me exposed when I need to farm.
go fuk yourself buy a shovel and bury yourself under a tree
that atitude is what makes people lose a game
you are a such a.... ow wait this must be 
bait
FantasySniper2 votesYour support has no presence if they can't cast spells. It's pointless to keep them there.
BeatzBoyFTW2 votesYou're doing nothing but making the oom support a wandering free kill for the opposing team. And I'm pretty sure despite you knowing that, enemy jungle ganks you and then you still blame the oom suppport for "not helping".
AFK Push5 votesDude this shit happens when I go to ward river or tribush, and we are pushing. I usually ping to be careful, but the ADC still thinks I am there...
NinjaToad993 votesOh man. The amount of times I've seen a support go ward and the ADC flips the "Ham" switch to "On", dies, and goes full rage mode on them for not helping is far too high
ImWaterlemonCat5 voteswell
Ginny3 votes
finally went back! I'M 
I CAN JUST OUTRANGE THEM RIGHT?
LaughingStapler2 votesYou really shouldn't back until the ADC does in 90% of situations. Even if you're OOM, it's better to tell them and stay until they decide to back.
Slipping Star5 votesBut then there's no one there to defend turret. D:
Kosmic Rider1 votes[{quoted}](name=Slipping Star,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=LYHZNwwq,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2015-01-19T19:16:31.530+0000)
But then there's no one there to defend turret. D:
Better to lose turret than to give 300 gold for a kill or 600 for a double kill when jungler, support, and adc all tower dive you. We all know that turrets are useless now and easily manipulated. In all actuality, it puts them at a disadvantage if they take turret before 12 minutes because you can freeze the lane and they're over extended. They then have to roam and lose out on exp/gold just to look for kills. They could try to push mid, but that rarely works out well because then you just secured bot lane enemy turret. They could potentially take mid, but between jungler+mid laner defending that turret, they should be able to hold it off. If they have 4 mid vs 2, top lane and bot lane should exploit this to their advantage.
Hellish Prophecy11 votesAny reasonable player knows that Objectives>kills. I'd rather die making sure the tower holds on another 5-10+ minutes then do nothing as it is shredded down.
NinjaToad992 votesBetter to lose turret than to give 300 gold for a kill or 600 for a double kill
So 300 gold is better then 650 750 (Man I can math real good at 12 AM) gold? A turret going down means 150 gold for everybody (Plus even more for those that downed it) and you lose the safety of the dmg output it gives. Granted, a turret doesn't prevent them diving you, but it does still give damage and it's still a force to be reckoned with.
While gold on the ADC (Plus a little for the support and maybe jungle) is dangerous, gold on the ADC, Support, Jungle, Mid, and Top is worse. Especially if there are snow-ball champs or really any-assassin-ever on the enemy team.
Kosmic Rider1 votesSo 300 gold is better then
650750 (Man I can math real good at 12 AM) gold? A turret going down means 150 gold for everybody (Plus even more for those that downed it) and you lose the safety of the dmg output it gives. Granted, a turret doesn't prevent them diving you, but it does still give damage and it's still a force to be reckoned with. While gold on the ADC (Plus a little for the support and maybe jungle) is dangerous, gold on the ADC, Support, Jungle, Mid, and Top is worse. Especially if there are snow-ball champs or really any-assassin-ever on the enemy team.
This is all valid. I am only speaking from experience: as long as I keep pressure on the map, continuously farm, and keep making good decisions, losing that 1 turret I still feel isn't worth dying over. You know that moment when they're going to take the turret whether you are there or not. The support and ADC want the kill, turret, or both. They're zoning you hard. Support is on their way back. All you can do is try to get damage on them and call jungler for a gank and set something up. Yet, I will always refuse to let them kill me. I have had many games where I've told my support to fall back and let them have the turret. In those games, I rarely lose due to the time limited while dead. It can be an advantage for them or a disadvantage depending on how far the game has been played. Before 10 minutes is a mistake for them unless they are fed. After 12 minutes, then I clearly got out played or did something wrong. In those games they get confident, thinking that they took the tower, they won the lane. They don't expect you to capitalize on their roaming for kills by taking their tower or following them to mid with your jungler and suddenly getting a kill yourself on them in a skirmish. I've had so many games where this occurs and we usually come out on top because I am not dead, they took the turret.
I guess it depends on the comp of both teams, how far along in the game it is, and how strategically minded. Bot lane is just a battle, it isn't the war. Losing one single outpost doesn't mean you've lost the game or at a disadvantage completely. You didn't die and are still in the fight. They just took map positioning they they will often abandon due to the undesirable nature of being pushed so far to the first tower being over extended. Many more opportunities will open up strategically and if played well, one can capitalize in victory over a small defeat.
BeatzBoyFTW1 votesBetter for enemy team to gain an objective when jungler, support, and adc all tower dive you
Fixed.
Slipping Star1 votesAssuming one has competent teammates. XD
Ale non è male1 votesSupport need to recall when they have to recall, and ADC have to recall as well if they can't hold on the lane for 30 sec while they are alone or they are half/low healht-mana even if they are only 200 gold away from a big item. It's jungler job to defend turret if it is in danger. The problem is that most junglers don't look ath the map and keep farming allowing enemies to take easily tower and dragon
Lafouboy2 votesOr you could just never go OOM and instead help the ADC kill the enemy laner. I mean, Riot has provided such great mana regen items for you. How could you ever go OOM with that fine selection?
-SARCASM INTENSIFIES-
utDOOM1 votesThe truth is, the adc is far better off just backing with the support and buying what they can. It's far less riskier and usually doesn't hurt the adc's dmg that much.
Then again, I play vayne who rushes cutlass which has a bunch of small parts, so i might not know what i'm talking about.
The main point is that a support and adc have to be synced for the best outcome.
Nakawaka1 votesThe truth is, the adc is far better off just backing with the support and buying what they can. It's far less riskier and usually doesn't hurt the adc's dmg that much.
Then again, I play vayne who rushes cutlass which has a bunch of small parts, so i might not know what i'm talking about.
The main point is that a support and adc have to be synced for the best outcome.
The support is losing out on exp and gold (ancient cold/relic shield) not b-ing at the right time anyways so it's desirable for them to manage wave and b together.
On the other hand the adc should never toe too far from the tower if the supports away (like, maybe busying getting their jungler out of trouble on the way to bot tower). The only ones that can consider breaking the rule are skilled ADC's fed beyond belief.
It goes both ways, really.
Father Cthulhu1 votesThe truth is, the adc is far better off just backing with the support and buying what they can. It's far less riskier and usually doesn't hurt the adc's dmg that much.
Then again, I play vayne who rushes cutlass which has a bunch of small parts, so i might not know what i'm talking about.
The main point is that a support and adc have to be synced for the best outcome.
For a lot of adc's that build IE first, its better to either not spend any gold at all unless you buy pots, or just buy another dorans blade and nothing else, so it doesn't put you too far behind.
SlackerboyTC1 votesI only ever did that once, back when i first played adc, never again.
Triggies1 votesIf they each 1v1 me trickshots only, I can win. But gangbangers are no fun, especially when the whole enemy team comes to gank you lol
