How do you counter insta kill ultimates in the midlane?

Magical Zoe··1 votes·325 views

I always take summoner 21 against champions likeVeigar Annie Fizz Lux Syndra Xerath because i know post 6 there's not much counterplay against their KO combos, is there something i'm doing wrong? or is it just pure unfairness that I can outplay them but still get destroyed when Veigar just presses R to kill me.

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inuitmailman1 votes

It's called kill presence. Usually if youre below half health against a veigar and he lands his full combo on you you'll die. Same with Annie and the others you described. Taking barrier is always a good start but when you think they can kill you... just reset you'll miss some farm but in my experience it's better than letting them kill you and snowball.

JhomasTefferson1 votes

No, post 6 if most of the champions on this list hit their full combo, you die. Even if they haven't got a kill yet.

Asayake 5150glow1 votes

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It's called kill presence. Usually if youre below half health against a veigar and he lands his full combo on you you'll die. Same with Annie and the others you described. Taking barrier is always a good start but when you think they can kill you... just reset you'll miss some farm but in my experience it's better than letting them kill you and snowball.

It wouldn't be half health - eating a full combo from 90% health would probably kill you.

Moooose31 votes

Veigar's ult is now an execute and doesn't scale with enemy's ap so no he doesn't still kill you just by pressing R. He needs to hit you with a stun q w and then ult. So basically use his entire combo. Cleanse into veigar is normally better than barrier. Xerath doesn't have a KO kit he pokes you down and waveclears. Syndra lux fizz and annie buy a negatron cloak or build into banshee's veil.

AR URF1 votes

item 3102

Cocho1 votes

When you get hit and take harass, you get pretty low.

Veigar is all skillshots, you can dodge everything but his ult. He isnt going to 100-0 is just his ult in the laning phase.

Asayake 5150glow1 votes

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When you get hit and take harass, you get pretty low.

Veigar is all skillshots, you can dodge everything but his ult. He isnt going to 100-0 is just his ult in the laning phase.

I mean his Q is pretty damn hard to dodge unless you're able to stay out of its range.

That being said Veigar is pretty short ranged in the first place, so everything of his can be dodged like that.

Truly Prideful1 votes

Early MR and respect their combo when you get close to 50% hp. Banshee's is a pretty awesome item now and makes it a lot easier to survive.

Xion The XIV1 votes

Want to counter Insta Kill ultimate mid lane. Ekko there you go. This guys ult works exactly like Yasuo's wind wall. Even if you see it hit him he can still ult and negate the damage from it.

HeresyHorus1 votes

Are u new to the game ? .. there are a lot of things made specially to screw up Mages ults that can either completely nullify those Ults damage like item 3157 item 3102 item 3814 Fizz Sivir E or severely reduce it at least like item 3812 item 3046 item 3156 and POOF ... the dreaded mage dies cuz he almost cant kill anyone 1v1 cuz CD and no sustain.

meanwhile there is nothing that can specially negate ADCs auto attacks that have no CD, no resource, targeted, deal more damage than most mages Ults and sustain them.

pick Lucian or any ADC mid for an easy cheese/snowball against any Mage right from level 1 and u wont have to worry about counterpaly later against a dumpstered enemy.

HeresyHorus1 votes

Are u new to the game ? .. there are a lot of things made specially to screw up Mages ults that can either completely nullify those Ults damage like item 3157 item 3102 item 3814 Fizz Sivir E or severely reduce it at least like item 3812 item 3046 item 3156 and POOF ... the dreaded mage dies cuz he almost cant kill anyone 1v1 cuz CD and no sustain.

meanwhile there is nothing that can specially negate ADCs auto attacks that have no CD, no resource, targeted, deal more damage than most mages Ults and sustain them.

pick Lucian or any ADC mid for an easy cheese/snowball against any Mage right from level 1 and u wont have to worry about counterpaly later against a dumpstered enemy.

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