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Sona needs a massive buff

Magical Zoe··9 votes·1,750 views

Sona feels incredibly weak right now and its ridiculous. She was my first champion that I ever bought and I loved her! but no...she garbage. Actual trash at the support role, and its because she doesn't do much. Her last buff was in season 5 when they changed her Ult to a flat 100 mana. But now, she's been nerfed relentlessly ever since that buff and she is in a cry for help. I suggest changing her heal, it is trash 30 / 50 / 70 / 90 / 110 (+0.25 Ability Power) Its almost like its not even worth pressing because its just a waste of cd. Her E which is her speed boost needs a rework into something else..its pretty useless I'd say in lane as you occupy most of your time doing your minimal damage with your Q. Hymn of valor I think is just super weak right now// Cost: 45 / 50 / 55 / 60 / 65 Mana Bonus Attack Damage and Ability Power: 4 / 8 / 12 / 16 / 20 Magic Damage: 50 / 100 / 150 / 200 / 250 (+0.2 Ability Power). And her ult....dear lord DO SOMETHING TO IT. Change her .5 ap ratio to .7 or something, it feels too weak as the stun is only like 1.5 seconds i'm sure. Please do something to my Maven, she needs her music back.Sona

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Lil Lewd Witch7 votes

Massive? No.

I do think she needs to be tweaked a little so she can fit in with all the mage supports that are popular right now. I noticed in URF(I know, I know, hell of a balance checker) that her range for her abilities put her within easy attack distance of most champs. Obviously poke shouldnt be free, but right now Zyra, LuLu, Malz, Brand and so on can all out range her and do more with their range.

If her Q poke range and her heal was stronger, she'd be very viable without being obnoxious.

Yuzuki Yukarin6 votes

The problem with her Q-range is multi-fold. Many sites and most players don't even know its actual range and thus will give you different numbers, but the official range straight from Rito game-coders is 700 units, but it will only prioritize enemy champions if they are within 550 units. It wasn't always this way and at some point in season 3, her priority range was increased from something around only 500 units, I don't remember exactly.

The reason the majority of players and sites don't correctly list its range is because; in dumpstering 4.13, Fearless shadow-nerfed both of these numbers by 50 units. After lying about this for a few patches, Fearless shadow nerfed them again by ANOTHER 100 units, that's an entire - 150 units, even the bronzies were able to figure out such a large discrepancy. Fearless finally admitted he had been shadow nerfing Sona's Q range and lied about it being unintentional. The following patch notes misleading stated that it was increased by 150 units, but failed to mention this was a "bug fix"(shadow nerf reversion) and as such, players mistook this to mean it now had 850 units, which it NEVER has had.

Enough background history. Point being is that I strongly agree with you.

Linna Excel5 votes

You played AP sona once a week ago, forgot to build lichbane, still had a good KDA, and are now complaining about it?

Magical Zoe5 votes

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You played AP sona once a week ago, forgot to build lichbane, still had a good KDA, and are now complaining about it?

Haven't had time to play much these few weeks lol. You probably noticed the 1 year gap in the matchs, I came back and she still feels clunky.

RexSaur5 votes

This doesnt suprise me, a lot of sona "mains" have always cried about her being "weak" even right after they reworked her and she had a 56~57% win rate and had to get hotfixed because her W was so broken she pretty much auto won games that went past lvl 11/16 with the ult massive cdr.

"but shes so weak amg".

ZephyrDrake3 votes

sorry but no

Magical Zoe9 votes

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sorry but no

Nice discussion.

ZephyrDrake5 votes

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Nice discussion.

better than yours that is essentially "buff everything because i don't like how she is! not even going to bother looking to see if i got this right!" and then putting wrong information at that... how is that even possible? you got her entire Q skill wrong.

MAGIC DAMAGE: 40 / 70 / 100 / 130 / 160 (+ 50% AP) BONUS MAGIC DAMAGE: 20 / 30 / 40 / 50 / 60 (+ 20% AP) (on next basic attack)

Her heal do a +5 to every single rank

and i bet you don't even know that her ultimate lowers the CD of every single one of her basic abilities by 10/25/40% depending on rank just based on how terrible your knowledge of her is.

if you are going to complain about her at least have the correct info, it's not that hard

Mecha MaIphite3 votes

Going purely off of statistics, she has a 53% winrate.

I also think you're underplaying some of her abilities; her healing isn't just about the heal, it also gives a shield and damage reduction. Her Q is hardly minimal damage; it's her auto afterwards that hurts a lot more with the spellblade from her passive and Q. I don't really know much about her E or her ult active.

That being said, I don't really play her, and what I do know is more from playing against her. Still, I'm somewhat skeptical of her being "incredibly weak" at the moment.

Sonasaurous3 votes

I'd be happy if they reverted the nerf to her W to keep the increased healing based on missing health. Now her heal feels so weak, and it wasn't that great to begin with.

Yuzuki Yukarin5 votes

The missing % scaling was a shit design that should have never been given to her. The concept was recycled from Soraka's kit, so it wasn't even original, but Soraka has and has always had a lot more and a lot stronger heals than Sona ever has. That shit concept was removed from Aria because it was a failed mechanic and Rito finally admitted it was a failure. Now it's time for Rito to pull their heads out of the sand and revert the rest of her shit for an excuse kit back to pre-4.13 where she was actually viable in high elo and the pro scene, without cheese-stomping bronzies.

cardomajig242 votes

Well if you're gonna complain about her heal then try building Athene's+Redemption and you'll be healing quite a lot. You wanna build damage? Do that. Stop complaining about how a champ needs a buff without knowing how to build them.

ZephyrDrake4 votes

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Well if you're gonna complain about her heal then try building Athene's+Redemption and you'll be healing quite a lot. You wanna build damage? Do that. Stop complaining about how a champ needs a buff without knowing how to build them.

he doesn't even know what the actual numbers of the skills are and you expect him to know how to build properly?

Elkington VI2 votes

I've been seeing all these AP Sonas running around on Ascension, nearly every game, and she doesn't seem very weak. I can't see how anyone would want that buffed. Not saying that Ascension should be compared with SR balance, but for a map that's pretty much run by assassins and bruisers, not only does she hold her own, she's actually a good pick.

MysteriousBootie1 votes

Make it so her poke takes micro :ok_hand:

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