If Azir was too strong then what champion is weak? Nerf one, nerf all

The Beastar·8/7/2015, 5:23:22 AM·2 votes·1,288 views

Warning, first paragraph contains reasoning behind topic. Azir and his nerf, the second paragraph will truly describe what should be done if Azir's e does not return to its pre patch 5.14 state, then other champions should have the same treatments.

Azir sigh i love azir, i like his gameplay and his character design, down to every detail i love.(not my favorite but still) but now, to me, he is almost unplayable unless you are lcs. the nerfs were acceptable, very acceptable in fact. but this most recent nerf that has removed azir's knockup on his e has made it almost impossible for him to win against any champ that doesnt stay in one place at a distance from him.(And with the communities love of champions like Fizz, kat, yasuo, or zed that doesnt happen alot, if almost any) If the enemy jumps on you any time before 40% cdr and youve already summoned your soldiers and used your q then your done. Your soldiers are somewhere in lane while you try to dissengage by either using ult, burning flash, dying, or possibly all three. you might have a shield i you hit them but for the most part its not going to save you and it gets you once again point blank to the enemy. I understand that some players obviously can pull off a w, q, e, r combo and it will be very effective with a massive outcome and that's very strong(that is primarily the reason riot says for their nerf because it made it hard for 'counterplay'), but whats the difference between that and yasuo's ult, or lee sin's? there isnt much difference!

it is a pain to see a champion privately executed by developers behind riot games studios. Then i had an idea. i say, make it a public execution, hang them all but don't just hang one. nerfs that would have an equal outcome for champions as it did for azir, little status effects or other elements that allow them to actually counter play those champs who counter play them.

Ekko Ekko: ekko has recently been put under alot of nerfs and i feel bad for him, just like azir he has been wounded but not murdered, now take his w and remove the stun and slow. just give him a good shield for a few seconds. it would hurt him alot. it would render him very very difficult to engage or escape from teamfights, ganks, etc.

Yasuo Yasuo: i give this dude alot of crap cause he is one of my biggest rival champs as he counters alot of my favorite champs but i respect him. Ive attempted him and have had no success at all, he is a very hard champion but lets nerf him real quick. Lets make his windwall block one or 2 projectiles, or perhaps make his q not crit. he would still be able to do alot of stuff in fights, but it will make his life much harder

Vi Vi: make her q do dmg, but no cc creating for alot of counterplay for the enemy, but not the champ

Garen Garen: no more silence, just good amount of dmg. creating for counterplay for the enemy, but not the champ

You see my point? do this with alot of champions. do it with your fav champs and step back and look at them. Get rid of their cc. and take a good long look. Yes Azir has his ult which has a knockup and blah blah blah i know, but riven has 2 hard cc abilities, so does zyra, and blitz. So why cant azir. xerath, much like azir is a range poker and i understand that riot would like azir to follow in his footsteps, but xerath still has his e stun it is able to burst you down point blank as much as far away. shrug just saying. So I say riot needs to give azir his e knockback back, if not a stun, make it shorter or anthything else, but it is that hard cc on it that gives him the ability to both engage and disengage in many situations and it feels not so much to ask :/Azir summoner 11 item 3001 item 3070

7 Comments

52426480_DEL8/7/2015, 5:29:24 AM1 votes

Azir's total lack of counterplay and ability to totally control teamfights is why he got nerfed. One champion shouldn't be able to stop a team from being able to engage at all.

Nekusen8/7/2015, 5:44:08 AM1 votes

Azir kills you from halfway across the map, i don't feel his changes are necessarily nerfs, the extra attack speed makes him feel stronger in lane. Ekko i even use him every once in a while, nerfs were required, tank-ekko has to be toned down, specially since he has sooo much versatility (slows, heals, shields, disengage, gap closer, wall jumps) with good base damage/low ap scaling. Fizz needs to be looked into the same way. Vi could get a couple of base stats tweaked

MLDzXnRRR8/7/2015, 7:23:17 AM1 votes

He is AP DPS, he is practically stronger than most marksmen in teamfights, the only thing that makes him balanced it that he can't lifesteal like ADC