About Riven...

neviss·Mar 19, 2017·2 votes·1,435 views

I can't understand people like, they compare RIVEN to GAREN it's something beyond imagination "Riven is so broken!" - Garen Player "OMG that Riven Damage" - Talon Player "Riven is not balanced" - LeBlanc Player There's something players need to know about Riven. First of All she is Hard to master but Average or even Easy to play in low elo. In high Elo she is hard to play because almost all Top Lanners Counter Riven and High Elo Players know how to counterpick or counterplay Riven(Hard/Average to Master at this point I think). Some of Her Combos are HARD AF. Your Ultimate with wrong Runes or Masterys will have 120s CD level 6 so he can make you waste your ultimate then destroy you. Lethality is stupid, not the Champion. If you think Riven Full tank deals the same damage as Garen Tank you never played Riven before. Garen Full Tank Damage 1000k True damage E Riven Full Tank Damage 200 Physical Damage or less. I main Riven and I am not saying all Community can't understand this, it's just stupid how people compare Riven to Garen, LeBlanc, Talon, and those champions. At least in Euw this happens.

18 Comments

Handy Sandy Mar 19, 20175 votes

First of all how are you gonna put Garen in with Talon and Leblanc that makes no sense

In high Elo she is hard to play because almost all Top Lanners Counter Riven

This is just wrong, that isn't why she's hard to play.

nevissMar 19, 20171 votes

You didn't even read everything. Plus this isn't about Garen or Talon it's about how people can't understand Riven is hard and compare them to other Retard Champions.

Mecha MaIphiteMar 19, 20173 votes

Retard Champions.

deathgod5Mar 19, 20173 votes

Yo, pro tip:

play a game as garen
get hella fed
see players complain about garen being broken.

Some people always complain that a champ is broken when they lose. We call those people "idiots", ignore them and watch your day improve.

Also in the last rules you start comparing riven to garen yourself. Maybe you don't intend it that way, but it comes of as highly hypocritical(also 1000k true damage seriously?).

nevissMar 25, 20171 votes

I maybeeeeeee had exagerated a little.... I was in the heat of the momment. Some people look so Adorbs in the heat of a momment, not me tho.

Xx420n0sc0p3sxXMar 19, 20172 votes

I have never seen Riven compared to any of those champs.

nevissMar 19, 20171 votes

Everytime I play Riven people compare me with those retard champions.

ApocalypsicMar 19, 20171 votes

I agree that Riven is a complex champion that requires effort and skill to play at higher elos and unfortunately not much of that at low elo.

I think your post however could have been worded better, there are a lot of factors that go into her and she's really not even comparable to any of the champs you listed.

Asayake 5150glowMar 19, 20171 votes

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I agree that Riven is a complex champion that requires effort and skill to play at higher elos and unfortunately not much of that at low elo.

I think your post however could have been worded better, there are a lot of factors that go into her and she's really not even comparable to any of the champs you listed.

Well, that mostly comes because people are caught out far enough that precise combos are not needed and a button mash is enough to kill them before they get any help.

From a Riven main who can doublecast fairly consistently, and has never tried to Shycombo because it's too damn hard.

However, assuming the lower elo player is playing the binary champions Trundle Tryndamere XinZhao they should have no problem with Riven, only a skilled Riven can really beat those champions in a duel.

However that doesn't stop a Riven from R+E+flash+qqq+w+R2 and getting kills, or hell, her easiest combo (with only a few mistakes) R+E+flash+thirdQ+W+R2+autos.

Those are stupid, sloppy, terribly slow, painful to watch combos that can be used in low elo and still work.

Gregor GysiMar 20, 20171 votes

From a Riven main who can doublecast fairly consistently, and has never tried to Shycombo because it's too damn hard.

Doublecasts are as easy as Alistair WQ so that doesn't say much.

Asayake 5150glowMar 20, 20171 votes

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Doublecasts are as easy as Alistair WQ so that doesn't say much.

I'm talking about the ER+flash+auto+(tiamat)doublecast+auto+R2Q2 combo.

Not the simple E+auto+doublecast.

Gregor GysiMar 20, 20171 votes

I highly doubt it because nobody would refer to it like that. Also, this combo is harder than the Shy combo.

Asayake 5150glowMar 20, 20171 votes

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I highly doubt it because nobody would refer to it like that. Also, this combo is harder than the Shy combo.

I am very confused by how you said what you just said. Please explain?

I mean, how else would you refer to the doublecast combo?

Perhaps it's harder than the Shycombo but it's a lot easier to practice and my fingers can do it. Shycombo... not so much. R+flash+W+auto+Tiamat+Q+auto+R2Q2 (not sure if I said that correctly) just feels bad to me.

nevissMar 25, 20171 votes

I agree that Shy Combo is hella hard, I am still training that tbh, I missclick everything. Sometimes I do it right. But it's just so hard!

Asayake 5150glowMar 25, 20171 votes