What's with the Kayles buidling only AD?

Zykklon B··1 votes·329 views

And dealing more dmg?

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Kyrrion2 votes

That's just Kayle being Kayle. Her optimal build literally depends on what items are stronger at the moment.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

also if a team is heavy ap and a kayle is on that team... knowing the enemy is gonna rush mr going ad is a way to counter it.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

she is an auto attack based champ who has a build in armor shred so ad works?

Paroe1 votes

[{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=LB2ohn0c,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-09-28T23:13:33.605+0000)

she is an auto attack based champ who has a build in armor shred so ad works?

MR shred. Not armor.

AD is intrinsically broken as well, having the burst of a thousand AP combined with 20% lifesteal and less than a second cooldown.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo2 votes

Kayle's basic attacks and Reckoning reduce enemy champions' armor and magic resistance by 3% for 5 seconds, stacking up to 5 times.

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Kayle

[zombie-brand-facepalm]

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

i await your rebuttal

Paroe1 votes

[{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=LB2ohn0c,comment-id=000000000001,timestamp=2016-09-29T00:12:21.703+0000)

i await your rebuttal

kay..? It doesnt really change the fact that AD is just broken by design. i honestly didnt realize it did armor as well, i dont remember it doing that.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo2 votes

how is it broken by design?

she is a dps hybrid champ... she has always been that way

she auto attacks that is where her damage comes from so being able to go ad or ap or hybrid it dont matter... and truth be told its easier to build vs an ad kayle then a ap kayle

Paroe1 votes

[{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=LB2ohn0c,comment-id=00000000000100000000,timestamp=2016-09-29T00:26:30.081+0000)

how is it broken by design?

she is a dps hybrid champ... she has always been that way

she auto attacks that is where her damage comes from so being able to go ad or ap or hybrid it dont matter... and truth be told its easier to build vs an ad kayle then a ap kayle

... i never said KAYLE was broken columbo. I said AD was. AD, you know, the stat attack damage?

Stop trying to look for a fight when no one was trying to make one.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

why is it a fight? its a discussion why are you getting mad? and i am asking how ad kayle is broken by design which is a statement you made.

Paroe1 votes

[{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=LB2ohn0c,comment-id=0000000000010000000000000000,timestamp=2016-09-29T00:36:26.468+0000)

why is it a fight? its a discussion why are you getting mad? and i am asking how ad kayle is broken by design which is a statement you made.

"i await your rebuttal" is the same thing as "come at me bro".

"AD is intrinsically broken as well, having the burst of a thousand AP combined with 20% lifesteal and less than a second cooldown." says nothing specific about kayle. It was a statement about AD, and how AD is broken by design with having all the burst of a thousand AP, the sustain of a vlad, and the safety of a siege mage (in the case of standard marksmen).

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

apparently you have never had debate in school.... and so ad in general is broke is your point? so all champs who build ad is broken ?

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[{quoted}](name=MrFawknSunshine ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=LB2ohn0c,comment-id=000000000001000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-09-29T00:41:28.741+0000)

apparently you have never had debate in school.... and so ad in general is broke is your point? so all champs who build ad is broken ?

Are you so bored that you want to argue this badly?

OP made a thread about AD kayle being extremely strong. the reason for that is somewhat due to kayles kit, but mostly due to the sheer power AD itemization has this season. 300 damage every 0.75 seconds very quickly out damages standard mages and when you add crits into the mix, it becomes less "damage per second" and more "burst damage with less than a second cooldown".

While the champions who use AD might not be broken, the itemization is most certainly extremely powerful and leads to many champions who shouldnt be doing AD heavy builds doing so viably. Kayle is an example of that, akali is an example of it, lulu, nidalee, shen, renekton, skarner. all champions who, due to the sheer strength of AD this season, have enjoyed abnormally powerful AD variants.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

ok once again kayle is hybrid and an auto attack who does dps... not a mage

2ndly ren is an ad caster who scales with ad...

skarner is an on hit ad champ who typically gets either item 3025 or item 3078 and then goes tank shen is a tank who auto attacks and isnt a mage and dont cast abilities he typically builds full tank.. and since he is auto reliant he goes ad for damage.

lulu on hit dps champ who can go ad or ap but is typically a support

akali another hybrid champ who scales with ad and ap

SithesisLord1 votes

The only AD items Kayle builds is Guinsoo's, which is a hybrid item. And BORK, which is only good under a few circumstances and packs AS with it.

Trinity Force isn´t even good on her because she doesn´t build enough AD for the Spellblade to matter, even though it´s possibly the strongest one, using only a champion's base stats.

Kayle doesn´t build AD. Not pure AD. She doesn´t synergize well with it, even if she's an AA-based champion.

AP, AS and more resistance reduction items is what she goes for, to apply her full passive faster. With the occasional Rylai's because League of Permaslow and the fact her Q costs a load of mana and can´t be spammed.

EndlessSorcerer1 votes

She is an autoattacker and both of her damaging abilities (Q and E) have AD scalings.

Erockandroll1 votes

I think it might have to do with the item Synergy.

She already has some synergy with Runnan's Hurricane simply because of her AA focused kit. Though it isn't as effective as it use to be, due to runnan's trading AS for crit chance. But when you combined that with Essence Reaver, You end up giving Kayle, the effectivness of Runnan's along with a solution to her mana and CDR problem, using just two items.

The main trade off from taking this rout would be A) reduced healing and speed boost from her W. and B) reduction in the splash damage from her E. But your single target damage skyrockets since you ad Crit chance into the build. Effectively turning her into an ADC. And honestly, such builds don't have to be full AD, you could add hybrid items like Rage Blade or GunBlade and it would work.

DunkinNoobs1 votes

AD Kayle will always be inferior to AP Kayle so long as item 3115 exists in its current state.

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