how to mitigate better jungler wins?

lofi n chillhop·May 9, 2017·1 votes·445 views

As ADC, and just generally for any lane, how can we mitigate game scenarios where the enemy jungler is outperforming our own?

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ChønklordMay 9, 20174 votes

Be pro-active and help your jungler.

If you are top lane; find the time to leave lane for a moment to either secure scuttle crab if your jungler is busy elsewhere, or use a trinket ward in the river bush toward mid.

If you are mid lane; you have even more responsibilities to assist your jungler. Deep ward into the front bush of red buff or blue buff sides; Actively roam and look for vision on the enemy jungler if you can. If you are getting pushed in lane to turret, buy item 3363 as soon as you hit level 9. Otherwise, buy item 2055 as often as possible when gold and item slots permit. You can carry 3 at a time, I believe. Place them near entrances to the jungle. For example, you can place a control ward in the bush directly to your left side of mid lane near the river (not the lane bush, but the one in the small opening into jungle near blue buff). Similarly you can place it over in front of your jungler's red buff bush.

Also as mid laner, if you're winning lane and/or have the ability to do so, place trinket wards when off CD into the raptor pit or near raptor pit. Try to get control of the plants in your jungle and the enemy's jungle to gain vision of whatever wards they have running. Roam if you are ahead. If you are behind/farming under turret, like I said get a farsight trinket ASAP and make sure you ward as often as possible.

If you are bot lane, just make sure you always have wards near the dragon pit tri bush, in the river, and the lane entrance bush. Junglers like to sneak around through the red side buff and use the plant to get around behind bot lane if they're pushed up.

#And please for the love of god, the most important thing: PAY ATTENTION TO THE MINI MAP AND JUNGLE PINGS. If your jungler is getting invaded, STOP whatever you're doing if you are the closest ally, and collapse on the one(s) invading. You can usually either deter the invade completely, or even turn it around and grab a kill because your team was the first to collapse on them.

It disgusts me when I see junglers spamming pings for help in their red side or blue side while the laners (especially mid laners and AD Carries) just sit there auto attacking minions for farm. What's more important; helping your jungler survive and gank for you later; or those 6 creeps? If your laner dies and gets their jungle camps stolen, that's a lose/lose there for your whole team because you have no pressure now from jungle and are prone to getting collapsed upon if you're being pressured. You can stand to lose a few minions; your jungler cannot say the same for their camps.

lofi n chillhopMay 9, 20171 votes

omg very helpful :O thanks thanks!

Live2LetDieMay 9, 20172 votes

Wards. What can an enemy jungler do if you know where they are. O he is bot? I'll play back. He is top? Then push forward.

Craft ZeppelinMay 9, 20172 votes

As this is a RTS game, junglers winning SHOULD make a large impact. And is sort of bound to. But think it the other way in terms of strategical advantages, If youre adc, and you win your lane your team OWNS herald.

Starcraft243verMay 9, 20172 votes

buy a pink and ward your own jungle. as a jungler i can't stand seing our support/adc warded literraly all the botlane bushes (even the ones close the wall), but the dragon pit and my jungle's entrance are not covered.

Darkdemon653May 9, 20171 votes

Ward properly if you're having problems with the enemy jungler.

DukuesMay 9, 20171 votes

ward and move when enemy jungle is clearly ganking your lane....... Had an adc yesterday pissed at me because "wow Ivern destroyed us" with both myself and his support pointed out multiple times that we pinged Ivern was walking down river past wards and adc never moved at all. Its pretty tilting being the jungle and warning your team of ganks and they just ignore you then get pissed about it. But when you try to gank the enemy actually moves because they actually look at their mini map and see you coming.