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GenghisEmo2 votes

He isn't busted, but the invulnerability, once people learn to use him, will be the reason for why he gets nerfs into other areas of his kit, which is uite overloaded.

But I honestly think he is in a fine state on release patch, but my gut tells me he will get a nerf or slight change to how turrets interact when he loses the mount.

I'm sure something will give in a future patch, in near future. I would not be surprised if he gets slight buff at first, but im sure he will get nerfs after that. And i am afraid i will be right. I'm hoping i'm not XD.

ÂFRÏCÂN GØD2 votes

People are complaining about his invulnerability on dismount. I like what it adds to the game. Its the same as fizz's and you have to expect it coming. He doesn't have a lot in terms of disengage after Skaarl besides q'ing and flash. I've EVEN DIED FROM IGNITE WHILE IN MOUNTING ANIMATION. like wtf. Hes not op to me. I've played with him and against him

GenghisEmo2 votes

the matches against Skarls i've been wining unless i get an ally that loves to complain and feed.

He isn't overtuned, per se, at least for now early in patch. But seeing as he is still new, and seeing how he has an overloaded kit, we can see some nerfs and changes like we had with Poppy.

I'm sure he will get them. I honestly feel he will get them. I'm sure i'm overreacting, but i do think he will get some nerf after some time passes if no changes are made to it. However, I feel like a compromise is in order, NOT Dropping Tower/Turret Aggro will be a good place to start.

Cause unlike Spider Form Elise's and Fizz's E, it is not about outplaying anything. Unlike Kayle's and Taric's ult it isn't about timing it right or on the correct target. It just happens once you are drop a certain amount of HP. Nothing else happens. as it is now, it is kind of like a free GA, free Aatrox passive, free Zilean Ulti, and free Anivia Passive, to some extent, but without the same level of frustration and without a real punishing cooldown. If anything, most people that play as Kled, that i know, claim it is just a free thing that is great to have, but may need some minor changes or tweaks since it can be too much as it is right now.

ÂFRÏCÂN GØD1 votes

That depends on playstyle's and how the fight is played out. I dont see it as a free ga as like I stated before, how you engage and disengage determines if its even useful because depending on how your opponent outputs their damage you could get kited/bursted and once skaarl leaves you are dead regardless of that second of invulnerability. You're going all in as Skaarl and next thing you know you have no choice but to back off after dismount. Ppl have to learn how to punish him when switching forms. Same as they would Gnar. I dont want nor expect league to be a game that stays in one lane. Forcing each champ that has a similar ability to have the same mechanics across the board. Perfect example is champ interactions with ryze ult, yas windwall, poppy w, etc. I dont expect invulnerability to be the same across the board and same goes for stealth, either way you look at it. I like the game-changer-ish mechanic it brings whether fair or unfair. I feel some things ppl should learn to deal with or work around. Sometimes Riot isnt known to nerf one aspect of a champ, at times they take small things away over time that end up gutting the champ and taking away its uniqueness. I dont see it happening with kled but some things were thought up and put into game for a reason. Soon there will be over 200 champs however long that takes and I dont want all skills that compare to each other to be played or outplayed the same exact way. Thats how games become stale and repetitive. I die in mount and dismount animations like yi dies in alpha so I dont see what it really brings that is worth complaining about unless someone is nice enough to purposely exploit it every time. Even still, like you said its first release kled. it's obviously not gonna stay the same over time.

GenghisEmo1 votes

He is already tanky as it is, and having that is a bit of overkill.

So i'm guessing, the mechanic will receive minor changes to make it seem less like a free "GA". Mostly in the tower dive aggro, i think.

Astôlfo1 votes

incoming QQ about Kled being OP from people who just cry about everything

ÂFRÏCÂN GØD1 votes

I've won like no games with him. After Skaarl leaves its like run around n q to survive if alone or get some autos off to bring skaarl back. Literally you can lose and bring back Skaarl at least twice a fight and pull kills out your ass, its up and down imo. TO ME, hes harder than ppl think survival wise because you can all in someone chasing them and lose skaarl and it can turn the tide of the whole fight. I guess like any champ, when fed hes "OP". which is usually what ppl confuse. Being fed and being op aren't always the same thing. But peep the comp I went against, it wasn't exactly 'easy'.

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