Zilean, Janna, or Taric

Divine Winds·Jun 21, 2016·2 votes·1,304 views

I want one of these champs... Who should I get? For support obviously Maybe mid if it's Zilean

15 Comments

MarshbouyJun 21, 20164 votes

Do you like being tank? taric Do you like peeling? janna Do you like no giving a fuck? zilean.

Knight SkyJun 22, 20161 votes

Ive played all 3 and in my opinion i would pick Zilean. Janna really doesnt do a whole lot and theres alot better picks then her, ex: Nami. Taric's problem is that you rely on your adc to be good which lets be honest doesnt happen all the time. Plus his ult his trick to land and be effective. Zilean on the other hand has everything you could want in a supp. He has damage and stun plus wavclear with Q. He can speed up allies by 99% and he can also slow eneimes by 99% with his E. His W resets the cooldown of your Q and E (just about). And if the enemy kills your adc? naf fam check again hes alive cuz zilean ult op.

By the way zilean and anivia with GA combo is dope. Anivia dies.. Oh wait comes back because of passive. Anivia dies again, oh wait she has a GA. Anivia dies a 3rd time nope Zilean just ulted her.

BeldairJun 22, 20162 votes

Omg that would be an annoying combo with Anivia and Zilean....would be funny to see the enemy team rage because they were denied a kill 3 times XD

The Last BalladJun 22, 20161 votes

Janna, as she is the most consistent support in the game. She can shield, heal, and blow your enemies away(and for $2.95 a minute she will leave you breathless). And she takes only a little skill(mostly timing for her e and accurate predictions for a max range q)

Knight SkyJun 22, 20161 votes

personally i think janna feels kinda useless Karma has a way better shield that shield the entire team pluss a move speed buff and she does more damage than janna and has more cc.

The Last BalladJun 27, 20161 votes

More cc. You mean a slow and a conditional snare(that puts you in danger to pull off) is more cc than a knock up, slow, and a giant knock back that also has a massive heal? All of which can be delivered safely? I don't see it.

Knight SkyJun 27, 20161 votes

First off you missed my point that karma offers more then just cc, with a WAY better shield plus alot more damage. And yes Karma's cc is still better. Janna's ult has such a tiny heal and a small knock back. I would much rather have a giant team Karma shield which shields twice as much as jannas small heal and gives a large movement speed boost. Also the karma snare is very effective and it shouldnt put you in danger if you use it when in right situations. Plus lets no forget the fact that jannas knock up is difficult to land and does no damage. Disagree with what i say or not i dont care but at the end of the day you cant deny the fact that Karma gets the job done alot better then janna all the way around.

The Last BalladJun 29, 20162 votes

Karma: One Multi target 25% slow and one single target 2 second delayed 1-2 second long snare that can be broken before the snare activates. Team wide shield 220+55% ap(except for the one originally shielded) and is only applied to all those in a 600 range of the target at the time of cast.

Janna: Multi target .5-1.25 second knockup, single target 24-40% slow(+6% per 100 ap), and a 725 knockback(which can stun) that also heals for 100-200, and also scales by 50% ap. Can heal allies that join the 725 range after the initial cast.

Yes, that team-wide temporary shield shields for soo much more than Janna's heal heals. An extra 20 + 5 per 100 ap over Janna's heal(which, unlike Karma's shield, is lasts until they are next attacked, be it 5 seconds or 500) The only reason that Karma usually shields for more than Janna's heal is the fact that Janna is built support, while Karma is built standard mage with a sightstone, because Karma is a battle mage who can go support, and Janna is a support without any other options.

In conclusion, Karma, as a Battlemage/Enchantress, is way better for damage(which is why people take her as a poke support), Janna, on the other hand, is a Enchantress/Disruptor, and as such has more reliable CC with more ways of applying it. Janna is used as a "can't touch this" button for the adc if played right, and therefore is useful to keep late game carries like Kog'Maw or Jinx alive. Karma is more of a "I'm the bigger threat! PAY ATTENTION TO ME" kind of support, and is more useful for those carries that can be frightening, but not "we have to focus this adc repeatedly until they are useless", like MF or Lucian

In other words, they are used for different purposes.

Disagree with what i say or not i dont care but at the end of the day you cant deny the fact that Karma gets the job done alot better then janna all the way around.

But the thing is, if I am disagreeing with your claim that Karma is superior in every way, then I can deny "the fact that Karma gets the job done alot better then janna all the way around." That is kind of the point of me disagreeing...

Knight SkyJun 29, 20161 votes

I agree with everything you stated above you last paragrpah and well done by using actual facts because most people on the boards are just ignorant. So good job there and +1 for me, you explained janna and karma pretty well. I do have to say that i feel that karmas shield at least FEELS more useful because not only does it shield alot you also get a nice move speed buff. Technically yes janna has more cc, but i prefer karmas cc which is what i was getting at, and thats just a prefrence thing. When i said that Karma gets the job done alot better, to be more specific i mean gets the job better in lower elos gold and under. The reason being is that lower elo players/adc's arent very good at the game yet and you need a support with damage so that you can pick up the slack for your adc or even other teammates who arent playing to there full potential. This is why i think karma is just simply put "better" for lower elo. With janna you must have a reliable adc to play good. Janna has no damage and relies on having a smart adc/team so she can use her cc/heals to enhance there performances. However, with a feeding team not even the best janna players can do anything to turn the tide of the game. With that said, I Janna in high elo or even just with a good adc can make a huge impact. Being in low elo though janna can feel useless when you adc is just to aggressive and feeds and then the enemy team snowballs out of control. So at the end of it all in my oppinion, and yours might be different, I feel that on average Karma is a better supp pick for gold and under, and Janna would be equally or even a better pick for supp in plat and up.

This debate has been fun and im glad you use facts to back up your arguments. I do as well, although I tend to not put in all the effort to do so on boards most of the time because no one really appreciates the effort it takes to do so. [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

The Last BalladJun 29, 20161 votes

Ah, that clears everything up. And yes, it was fun.

Pandemic PunchJun 22, 20161 votes

Janna is the best support in the game with a reliable team/ADC.

Zilean is the best of those three options when you do not have a reliable team/ADC.

Athenes LuluJun 22, 20161 votes

If you like tanky peeler style, Taric. If you like super duper backline peeler style, Janna. If you just love zoning the crap out of the lane with a single button and deal tons of damage, Zilean.

zlumpyJun 22, 20161 votes

If you go to my geuss 5 favorite champ thread you could get all 3 if you win :D

Friendly RamJun 22, 20161 votes

janna is hilarious with her disengage and keeping everyone safe. definitely recommend her for a fun time.

GibberwattJun 29, 20161 votes

I would say that janna is good for defense, taric is better for sustain/engage, and zilean is what you pick if you wanna have a butload of fun, while being extremely annoying to the other team.

Hint: I suggest zilean