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Jaurim's Fist / Seeker's Armguard Stacking

RIPxMidnight·3/6/2016, 8:26:30 PM·2 votes·2,872 views

item 3052 item 3191 seem unique in that they are both second tier component items with unique stacking passives. I've never seen any mention to the efficiency of these items so I'm looking for some clarification. Both are items I buy often either to get Zhonya's or Sterak's/Titanic Hydra.

Is this stacking passive item based (and therefore lost upon upgrade) or champion based (and therefore permanent)? My practice has always been to stack each item to 30 before upgrading so as to get the most out of the item. That way item 3052 will give me +120 HP and item 3191 will give me +15 armor/AP and then once the stacking is done I can upgrade to the next tier.

OR, are these bonus stats "lost" upon upgrade and simply considered as part of the stats granted by item 3748 item 3053 item 3157 ?

In other words, if I take the time to stack my item 3191 30 times, would item 3157 grant +100 (+15) AP and +45 (+15 armor) or is it a flat +100/+45 no matter what I do with item 3191 ? Same question for the item 3052 items... does that bonus HP stick around or get included in the price of tier 3?

Another variant of the question would be if I stack 30 on an item and then sell it, are the bonuses lost? Logic would suggest that yeah, that would be the intent, in which case I would also assume that the bonuses would be lost upon upgrade... in which case what's the point of taking the time for stacking in the first place?

2 Comments

Variks the Loyal3/6/2016, 8:29:10 PM2 votes

The stacked benefits of Jarum's FIst and Seeker's Armguard do not translate into their fully upgraded forms.

So, no, waiting to finish the item until the component is fully stacked nets you no benefits. Just finish the item as soon as you can.

Critmaster Garen3/6/2016, 9:49:00 PM1 votes

jaurims fist has 0 efficiency when it comes to its stacks. its actually pretty horrible, as youre essentially stacking hp you already payed for.

the benefit of paying 450 gold to combine jaurims fist is 5 ad, and 150 hp you have to stack up.

meanwhile another ruby crystal would give you 150 hp directly upon purchase for 400 gold.

honestly, i dont know why this is even a thing.