Spellthief Buff Ideas

Snow Guardian·9/6/2017, 7:35:03 PM·4 votes·878 views

Currently the spellthief line isn't being chosen and people are favoring the coin line.

On PBE riot has buffed spellthiefs to compensate. Giving the completed items 20% cdr and a portion of that to frostfang. But I don't think this is the buff that will get it chosen.

The main problem with the spellthief line, when compared to the coin line, is the gold generation. Even managing to use all of your charged procs as they come off cooldown during laning phase, you're only going to manage to go a little less than even from supports who choose coin. This gets even worse when they upgrade to Nomads and when laning phase ends. I'm not suggesting coin be merged, I feel the gold gen from it is very good and helps to make support feel impactful.

I want spellthief to have its gold gen buffed, not its cdr. Of course this is a very difficult prospect as a spellthief line that is too strong is taken by midlaners as well. To counter this, I think the cooldown increase from killing minions should be increased and possibly also still exist (though in reduced capacity) when fully upgraded.

The gold gen that I would give to spellthiefs would be increasing the starting item gold per proc from 8 gold to 10 gold. And increase the gold gen per proc of frostfang and up from 15 gold to 20 gold per proc. This isn't a huge change, but it will add up as the game progresses and I think being spellthief users up towards the level of gold that coin users get.

Another idea would be to increase the amount of procs you can store as the game time increases, because as the game goes on you simultaneously have more and less opportunities to use your procs. A coin user can just stand near a laner while they cs to get gold. A spellthief user of course cannot do this and has to specifically go out and find someone to attack for their gold. This seriously hampers them as the game goes on when this squishy support may have to get just slightly too close to the enemy for gold generation. Of course that's a game decision you will have to make, but I feel that if you are being forced to make it, you should get more reward for it.

I propose the spellthiefs line become able to store 4 procs by 20 minutes and 5 procs by 30 minutes. Or that the cooldown between using charges is removed after a certain game time. That way a spellthief user can manage to get all their charges used at the same time like they used to be able to, though without dominating laning phase.

Tell me how you feel about this and if you think this could be improved, if it's too op, what your own ideas are, whatever.

4 Comments

LightIsMyPath9/7/2017, 12:32:13 AM1 votes

The hilarious part is that buff while doing nothing for support may actually bring it mid since you hit 20% cdr with so few gold. It definitely needs buffs to its gold generation, I'd really want to use the item again on my lulu nami and sona, it's way more entertaining then coin