Cleanse doesnt work against Malzahar?

Lunari Voidus··7 votes·667 views

So....why not? I don't see why his ult shouldn't be able to be cleansed, can you guys?

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Void Nargacuga7 votes

Its because of the power of his CC when he ults you. Which is a Suppresion.

Suppression

  • The target is unable to control movement, attack, cast abilities or use summoner spells.
  • Will interrupt channeled abilities.
    
  • The duration is not affected by crowd control reduction.
    
  • The effect can be removed only by using Quicksilver Sash ![item 3140](https://ddragon.leagueoflegends.com/cdn/16.20.1/img/item/3140.png) or Mercurial Scimitar ![item 3139](https://ddragon.leagueoflegends.com/cdn/16.20.1/img/item/3139.png) active (![summoner 1](https://raw.communitydragon.org/latest/plugins/rcp-be-lol-game-data/global/default/data/spells/icons2d/summoner_boost.png) is not an option since Suppression prevents summoner spell use).
    
  • Champions with Suppression: ![Malzahar](https://ddragon.leagueoflegends.com/cdn/16.20.1/img/champion/Malzahar.png), ![TahmKench](https://ddragon.leagueoflegends.com/cdn/16.20.1/img/champion/TahmKench.png), ![Skarner](https://ddragon.leagueoflegends.com/cdn/16.20.1/img/champion/Skarner.png), ![Urgot](https://ddragon.leagueoflegends.com/cdn/16.20.1/img/champion/Urgot.png), ![Warwick](https://ddragon.leagueoflegends.com/cdn/16.20.1/img/champion/Warwick.png).
    
  • No special visual effect.
    
shyv3 votes

tahm's devour is classified as suppression? does that mean you can qss it?

probably stupid question but im bad

Void Nargacuga1 votes

When you use his Devour on an enemy yeah its classified as a suppression. But strangely if you do use item 3140/item 3139 active you still take the exit damage which kinda sucks.

shyv4 votes

i think it's the same for malz, you take damage if you're within the range of his ult, even if you're not suppressed anymore

also i find it hilarious that i got downvoted for asking a question but w/e

Void Nargacuga1 votes

Yeah as long as you are in Tether range of Malzahar ultimate (also applies to Warwick ult!) you will still take damage. Its a sad day when a serious question gets downvoted.

ChaoticPinecone3 votes

Certain CC's are, for a lack of better word, ranked higher than others. Similar to how you can still auto/cast abilities during a snare but not a stun, and you can still move during a slow but not a snare (even if the slow is 99%). Suppression is ranked pretty high - the only thing higher is a knockup/knockback. So you cant cleanse a suppression, but you can QSS it. You can neither cleanse nor QSS a knockup or knockback.

Grashnim2 votes

For some reason, cleanse isn't that great. I feel it is false advertising too.

Nagoh Shan2 votes

Suppression prevents summoner spell use.

Have to use QSS

Penns1 votes

Because cleanse doesnt work on suppressions like Warwick Malzahar Skarner Urgot ult and TahmKench W, only item 3140

Vistha Kai1 votes

We have to blame Riot for their good-for-nothing in-game descriptions here.

Cleanse is basically self-active version of Mikael's Crucible*, which reads "Removes all stuns, roots, taunts, fears, silences and slows".

Side note, it also removes Blinds, unlike Mikael's.

thinking man1 votes

literally the point of a suppression is that you can't cleanse it

only thing that makes it not completely worse than just a stun

Meep Man1 votes

Its to make it so you can't counter a champion right at the beginning of the game (although Ignite can do that, but whatever). You at least need to buy QSS for that. I can see their reasoning for it but, again, Ignite can counter champions right off the bat.

Cloud2731 votes

Suppression=an ability with no counterplay. But everyone says Malzahar is a healthy champ because "no mobility".

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