Cleanse doesnt work against Malzahar?

Lunari Voidus·2/7/2016, 6:53:35 PM·7 votes·667 views

So....why not? I don't see why his ult shouldn't be able to be cleansed, can you guys?

14 Comments

Void Nargacuga2/7/2016, 7:01:19 PM7 votes

Its because of the power of his CC when he ults you. Which is a Suppresion.

Suppression

  • The target is unable to control movement, attack, cast abilities or use summoner spells.
  • Will interrupt channeled abilities.
    
  • The duration is not affected by crowd control reduction.
    
  • The effect can be removed only by using Quicksilver Sash ![item 3140](https://ddragon.leagueoflegends.com/cdn/16.17.1/img/item/3140.png) or Mercurial Scimitar ![item 3139](https://ddragon.leagueoflegends.com/cdn/16.17.1/img/item/3139.png) active (![summoner 1](https://raw.communitydragon.org/latest/plugins/rcp-be-lol-game-data/global/default/data/spells/icons2d/summoner_boost.png) is not an option since Suppression prevents summoner spell use).
    
  • Champions with Suppression: ![Malzahar](https://ddragon.leagueoflegends.com/cdn/16.17.1/img/champion/Malzahar.png), ![TahmKench](https://ddragon.leagueoflegends.com/cdn/16.17.1/img/champion/TahmKench.png), ![Skarner](https://ddragon.leagueoflegends.com/cdn/16.17.1/img/champion/Skarner.png), ![Urgot](https://ddragon.leagueoflegends.com/cdn/16.17.1/img/champion/Urgot.png), ![Warwick](https://ddragon.leagueoflegends.com/cdn/16.17.1/img/champion/Warwick.png).
    
  • No special visual effect.
    
ChaoticPinecone2/7/2016, 7:33:24 PM3 votes

Certain CC's are, for a lack of better word, ranked higher than others. Similar to how you can still auto/cast abilities during a snare but not a stun, and you can still move during a slow but not a snare (even if the slow is 99%). Suppression is ranked pretty high - the only thing higher is a knockup/knockback. So you cant cleanse a suppression, but you can QSS it. You can neither cleanse nor QSS a knockup or knockback.

Grashnim2/7/2016, 6:58:53 PM2 votes

For some reason, cleanse isn't that great. I feel it is false advertising too.

Nagoh Shan2/7/2016, 8:30:11 PM2 votes

Suppression prevents summoner spell use.

Have to use QSS

Penns2/7/2016, 6:59:28 PM1 votes

Because cleanse doesnt work on suppressions like Warwick Malzahar Skarner Urgot ult and TahmKench W, only item 3140

thinking man2/7/2016, 8:28:40 PM1 votes

literally the point of a suppression is that you can't cleanse it

only thing that makes it not completely worse than just a stun

Cloud2732/7/2016, 8:38:54 PM1 votes

Suppression=an ability with no counterplay. But everyone says Malzahar is a healthy champ because "no mobility".

Meep Man2/7/2016, 8:30:33 PM1 votes

Its to make it so you can't counter a champion right at the beginning of the game (although Ignite can do that, but whatever). You at least need to buy QSS for that. I can see their reasoning for it but, again, Ignite can counter champions right off the bat.

Vistha Kai2/7/2016, 7:26:52 PM1 votes

We have to blame Riot for their good-for-nothing in-game descriptions here.

Cleanse is basically self-active version of Mikael's Crucible*, which reads "Removes all stuns, roots, taunts, fears, silences and slows".

Side note, it also removes Blinds, unlike Mikael's.