Annie Q needs to be skill shot

MechaBeast··5 votes·1,490 views

Just like you did with Ryze Q and Veigar Q you must do with Annie . I think that will be better. Edit:- The win rate with Annie is over the 50%,She is a strong champion with high damage. Beside when her Q kills a unit the Mana cost and half the cooldown are refunded,Dont you see that the chance of not killing something is very low for 2 reasons,the first one because it is not a skill shot,it hit the target only,The second is because it has a high damage. Riot i know that you can try this idea then see if it is good or not before anyone else.

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Martyrofsand4 votes

Annie is not even remotely close to OP, and she does not need a single change as she curretly sits.

MechaBeast4 votes

I feel like you didnt play once against annie Let me just tell you that the damage on her abilities is very high comparing it with other champions. Her Q gain 80% of her AP W 85% R 80% of ability power Witch mean if you have 400 AP you will deal with all your abilities more than 1800 DAMAGE,and we know that you cant run cuz you are STUNNED

Martyrofsand5 votes

Not only have I played against Annie I also play her very often. It's rather remarkable what you learn when you experience a champ from the other side. For example I know as Annie that if my opponent lets me Q then at lvl 1 enough to get them to half health then they are going to die the second I ding lvl 2 to W-Q-ignite. I also know that if I happen to see a Xerith/Azir/Orianna/Ziggs/etc than I may as well be a minion in the lane because I won't be getting in range of them any time soon provided they have a pulse.

I also know that her ratios are nothing special especially compared to many other champs running around right now. Just to compare

Annie's kit at max level 935 x 260% AP, this includes first tick of tibbers Ahri's kit at max level 1154 x 304% AP Diana's kit at max level 880 x 270% AP Kennen's kit at max level 1295 x 310% AP Leblanc's kit at max level 1285 x 337% AP, with her ult mimic used on W it gets higher if used on Q. Lissandra's kit at max level 1020 x 235% AP Viktor's kit at max level 945 x 207% AP, not including the AA portion of his Q. Orianna's kit at max level 880 x 220% AP, not including her AA damage

I could go on but it's pretty clear compared to other mages kits Annie's damage isn't anything spectacular. Ahri/Kennen/Leblanc all have higher base damage and scaling while Annie beats out Liss/Ori/Vik in base values and scaling while she beats Diana in base values but is out scaled by Diana. Annie damage wise is middle of the pack when it comes to AP mages and this whole "Annie does insane damage" crap you are spewing is simply ignorance.

MechaBeast1 votes

Annie is stronger than any of these champions Because she have a stun every 7 seconds also with area damage

Martyrofsand3 votes

Right stronger that is why she is mainly relegated to support while Ahri/Diana/Leblanc/Viktor/Ori all see mid-lane play as actual AP carries and assassins.

Face it man your entire argument has been revealed for the ignorant drivil that it is. You can't deal with one of the most easily delt with mages in the game and frankly a support that has fallen out of favor due to how tanky the meta has become. You really have no basis in which to stand on in this discussion.

MechaBeast1 votes

All the champions that you mention needs time to cast all their abilities more than Annie,Is one of the fastest champions witch can use all her abilities in 1 second(I play Annie and ya 1 SECOND),other champions needs more than 1 second and if they don't they must be weaker. So can you tell me one champion that can use all his abilities in 1 second and deal damage more than Annie with a stun??!!!!!

Martyrofsand4 votes

Don't do the damage as fast as Annie?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmmZ7ru89yo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBGxj4hZmV0

Do I really need to continue with posting all the ways the champions I have mentioned deletes other champions just as quickly as Annie can? You really have no clue what you are talking about, and have literally said nothing but incorrect information during this entire discussion. Pretty close to just calling this a troll at this point.

MechaBeast1 votes

First the 2 videos you showed us,both of them are fed and have high AP,I can do the same thing with all AP champions if i have high AP,but annie deal area high damage AREA HIGH DAMAGE AND STUNS,you still didn't get it,go and search about how annie can be op.

Crossette1 votes

Why do you think people played BRAND AND KATARINA SUPPORT?

Fucking damage and lane pressure. That's what Annie has, just on a much larger scale.

I also play her very often

Edit: You're making remarks about burst mages being stronger than Annie. She has point-click CC and as much damage if you aren't a moron.

ModAttysu The Poro3 votes

Honestly pls don't touch my Annie, no one knows how to counter it in bronze so it's easier to carry my adc through laning phase ;-;

Snarflaz3 votes

Ehh, i still think tibbers needs a nerf not her Q.

Matezoide3 votes

Not everything needs to be a fucking skillshot

Crossette1 votes

Not everything needs to be point-click either, but there are some things that absolutely shouldn't.

Am I Daddy2 votes

Would it though, think about it annie already has a instacast ult that can stun up to 5 people, and her w can just burst them down even more, so making her q a skillshot would just make it level'd less and just use'd less no real reason to actually change it.

MechaBeast1 votes

She is just OP and that is a good reason to make her Q skill shot

Fowus2 votes

imo I think she shouldn't be able to hold her stun forever

MechaBeast2 votes

You got that right,I hope they do it,Like she have 10 seconds to use it or it will reset.

Ginny2 votes

Annie, like Veigar, has no mobility - but Veigar's ult is an anti-AP nuke and he can theoretically have as much AP as he wants. Ryze's ult gives him movement speed and he's inherently tankier and tends to build tankier items.

The trouble with Annie is not a lack of counterplay - it's a lack of knowledge about how to counterplay her. She's incredibly vulnerable when she's at 0-1* stacks on her passive (*unless she's got her ult up and you give her the time to get all 4 abilities off), and a good Annie will disregard her passive while farming. This is to your advantage. Annie has a relatively low spell range compared to champions like Ahri, Lux, and Veigar.

The reason people don't like playing against Annie is because she's pretty much an anti-bullshit champion. If you come at her with a bullshit all-in champion like Fizz or Zed, you're gonna have a bad time. The best way to counter an Annie is to poke her down from afar and keep a reasonable distance. Lux, who has received some pretty nice buffs in the past few patches, is a really good counterpick assuming you're able to stay away.

Alternatively, playing a tankier champion against Annie wouldn't be a bad idea either. Ryze, Cho'Gath, etc. might be viable picks against Annie.

BluePolarizer1 votes

Every time I see Annie QQ I check for ranked badges.

Sir Yamazuki2 votes

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Every time I see Annie QQ I check for ranked badges.

Annie is op and I have more badges than you, I guess I'm automatically correct?

BluePolarizer1 votes

we are around the same elo so I agree to disagree.

Sir Yamazuki1 votes

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we are around the same elo so I agree to disagree.

You mean tier? yes. Elo? no. Feel free to check the ranks of my opponents, I surely do not go against gold players or plat 5s in ranked. Elo wise I'm almost a full tier ahead of you with my 30 or so games vs your 1,100+. Nice try though.

BluePolarizer1 votes

Used to be plat 2 then tilted down during the meta change. I also don't play 2500+ normals the way you do. Meanwhile you have always been plat 5.

Sir Yamazuki1 votes

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Used to be plat 2 then tilted down during the meta change. I also don't play 2500+ normals the way you do. Meanwhile you have always been plat 5.

Normals are irrelevant to ranked elo and I wasn't always plat 5. You brought up elo and turned out yours is much lower, come up with all the excuses you want. I don't even take ranked soloq seriously either and let myself decay all the time.

NemeBro1 votes

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we are around the same elo so I agree to disagree.

What a fucking coward, lol.

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