Vayne is weaker than other champions like MF and corki cuz they can do AOE and switch targets good, vayne would be better if she could stack her W on multiple targets at the same time and so then she could use attack speed heavy items like hurricane to do aoe too but she would still be balanced cuz her short rrange and garbage ult
letsfeedtogether4 voteslmao.
Deliberate Inter1 votesI don't mind an emote but you should elaborate if you're gonna do something like that
The thigh guy2 votesThey’d have to gut her kit to allow this.
Deliberate Inter1 votesHer kit already is gutted compared to other champions like varus, urgot and yi who adc better
The thigh guy2 votes[{quoted}](name=Brony Gaymer,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=KQluBfmK,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-02-21T16:42:27.437+0000)
Her kit already is gutted compared to other champions like varus, urgot and yi who adc better
Um? Varus? That’s a lie and you know it. Dude is the actual worst Adc is the game atm.
As for Vayne. She has a 51.56% winrate in plat +. Letting her aoe stack true damage with a Guinsuu is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much true damage for anyone to deal with.
Source https://champion.gg/statistics/#?roleSort=ADC&sortBy=general.winPercent&order=descend
Deliberate Inter1 votesVayne only hits 3 targets with this change, unlike varus who can Q up to infinity.
The thigh guy2 votes[{quoted}](name=Brony Gaymer,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=KQluBfmK,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-02-21T17:10:34.327+0000)
Vayne only hits 3 targets with this change, unlike varus who can Q up to infinity.
Varus can use his q once. Vayne is repeatable, non-dodgeable auto attack based true damage.
Varus gets an execute from 30%ish in perfect situations once ever 45-22 seconds.
And let me put it like this. With a Guinsuu. That’s 12% max hp true damage, on 3 targets every 2 auto attacks. Not accounting for base damages, pta buffs OR YOUR TEAM.
Deliberate Inter1 votesVarus can Q at range and repeat post cooldown, vayne has to stand still for an auto attack animation every time she wants to hit someone within 550 range. The way you said it sounds good on paper but that isn't how it works in practice when assassins, burst mages, poke and champions that just outrade her at various points in time and with various power spikes exist. But yes, vayne would melt face in the situations where she can auto for an extended period of time, like every adc is supposed to and already does when they go off, the exception? vayne still doesn't have the pick potential of a varus ult, free grievious wounds , the CC of his slow and ult , his range, safety laning phase and his poke. ;)
The thigh guy2 votes[{quoted}](name=Brony Gaymer,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=KQluBfmK,comment-id=000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-02-21T17:18:50.400+0000)
Varus can Q at range and repeat post cooldown, vayne has to stand still for an auto attack animation every time she wants to hit someone within 550 range. The way you said it sounds good on paper but that isn't how it works in practice when assassins, burst mages, poke and champions that just outrade her at various points in time and with various power spikes exist. But yes, vayne would melt face in the situations where she can auto for an extended period of time, like every adc is supposed to and already does when they go off, the exception? vayne still doesn't have the pick potential of a varus ult, free grievious wounds , the CC of his slow and ult , his range, safety laning phase and his poke. ;)
Okay? And varus doesn’t get true damage, is cooldown reliant, doesn’t have stealth, mobility or an ad steroid that is reliable.
And Vayne does has pick potential. Just have to use her stun.
And again. Varus is not going to get off more than 2 of his q’s in a fight. If he was as good as you say, he wouldn’t be at a 45.15% winrate. And if Vayne was as bad as you day and needed this buff she wouldn’t be at a 51.56% winrate as well as being the 5th best adc.
Sorces are plat +. Link is to source. https://champion.gg/statistics/#?roleSort=ADC&sortBy=general.winPercent&order=descend
Deliberate Inter1 votesVayne needs her entire kit for her auto attacks to have any contribution at all, it's a house of cards. Varus' entire kit is excellent unto each part. He is always good but vayne must be a perfect storm, even if this change went through to bring her more in line with varus, urgot and Yi
Cind3rkick2 votes[sg-lux-2]
Deliberate Inter1 votesUh explain??
Cind3rkick2 votesLike most people have said This would completely break vayne
Deliberate Inter1 votesHow so? There is no evidence of that, she would still be able to do less than literally every other adc, ESPECIALLY varus and corki like I was saying
Cind3rkick1 votesThink about it, vayne can already 1v1 any adc if she hits her e late game. 3 hits to kill them right? Combine that with an AD steroid and invisibility/dash with even more damage on a 0.5 second cooldown
Your telling me that she should be able to deal about 500 damage a second to 3 people? With invisibility and mobility and incredible single target damage? If you dont think this is broken then im sorry but your an idiot
No defensive abilities beside flash/heal
Reliant on 3 autos AND an ability with a 7 second cd
No movement abilities for chasing
Is effectively a mage.
Is never played as an adc
Deliberate Inter1 votesthink about it a good varus will kill vayne before vaye even gets in range unless she ults, qs AND flashes and then it's still 50/50 unless vayne isn't fed then varus always wins
Cind3rkick1 votesOr if vayne simply qs varus's q?
Deliberate Inter1 votesHis auto attack range, E and R all outrange vayne
ZackTheWaffleMan2 votes"garbage ult" [zombie-brand-facepalm]
Deliberate Inter1 votesIT doesn't even do damage up front like varus or ashe, it's gimp right?
Bjørnetjenesten2 votesShe is a single target duelist, why would she need AOE?
Deliberate Inter1 votesCuz other adcs can properly aoe and poke and duel and have better lane phases and vayne is weaker than others like yi, tryndamere, ugot and shaco???
Bjørnetjenesten2 voteswait what? are you trolling ? xd
Deliberate Inter1 votesNo, and we should always be at least mostly serious and very respectful.
Bjørnetjenesten2 votesAre you trolling?? have you looked at her stats recently?
Deliberate Inter1 votesNo and yes