Reddit comment I thought I'd share regarding DG/SQ

ModWulf Helhammer··1 votes·847 views
COUTS_132's comment from discussion "Pwyff's thoughts on dynamic queue changes"

He says a lot of interesting stuff. _ I suspect reddit indexes higher on hardcore solo players than a general demographic slice of League._ Indeed. Reddit doesn't, in any way, shape, or form, represent the general LoL community. It represents a very specific type of players with very specific opinions that are all very vocal about what they like and what they don't. This is true for better or for worse. I think it's important to acknowledge these hyper-competitive communities have certain biases and we have to account for them in the feedback they give. The reason I highlight this is because, in the first few months of DQ's launch we also saw a 'silent majority' playing more ranked, saying they liked dynamic queue in surveys, being more positive in game, playing in more premades, and so on. This one quote is super important. Contrary to what reddit wanted to believe, the majority of players liked DynamicQ and being able to play with friends. The difference is these people didn't go out of their way to say how much they loved DynamicQ, while reddit kept spamming threads about how DynamicQ is the Antichrist. ** We had a silent majority against our vocal minority, one that has a generalized bias of being hyper solo-competitive.** _ Where originally we were confident in making the tradeoff of some perception for more organized competition, player belief in the legitimacy of ranked as a measurement of personal worth has not stopped sliding and now, at this end-of-season juncture, we're unacceptably further away from the mark than before._ So, in simpler English: the belief itself that ranked would devalue with DynamicQ made ranked devalue when DynamicQ was implemented. It's not that ranked was actually less valuable, it's that players thought it was less valuable, and the worth of something is determined by the value that people give to that something. In the end, we didn't suddenly come to the conclusion that DQ was 'less legitimate' than SQ, we just realized that player perception was forcing it into a reality. To elaborate on what the previous paragraph stated, Reddit kind of forced its own opinion to become a reality for others. It's sad, I honestly think DynamicQ is miles above SoloQ and I often argued in its favour on reddit, only to be met with downvotes and people claiming that ranked was becoming less and less valuable when you can't really say that. Eventually, it was an established fact that DynamicQ was devaluing ranked. I don't think I've ever witnessed a phenomenon such as this anywhere in the world where people kind of brainwash themselves in a hivemind mentality. Kind of reminds me of certain aspects of George Orwell's 1984. And to top it off: _ The team tried to correlate premades with MMR gains and found little to no overall statistical evidence. I'm not saying there are no 'boosted animals' out there but maybe it happened less than everyone believes._ Here you go. Reddit forced itself to believe that DynamicQ was a tool for people to be boosted and that ranked would lose value with it. Turns out it wasn't. Thanks for the read, Pwyff. It's good to know what really went down.

(bold italics are Pwyff's words)

Comment is regarding RiotPwyff's twitlonger about dynamic queue this season here

3 Comments

Michael7022 votes

I thought people that wanted SQ were the silent majority.

And then you got the people that defend DQ because "they like being able to select their role". So many people equate DQ to role selection it's not even funny.

ModWulf Helhammer1 votes

SQ advocates were far from being silent, majority or minority.

Michael7022 votes

Yeah, there was an uproar when DQ came out. Out of all my friends, I was the only one that publicly protested AFAIK. Most of them just quit.

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