"testing Smite changes" - Meddler

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" One of the reasons behind that change is the belief that Chilling Smite is making skillshot/free targeted offensive dash junglers (such as Lee Sin, Jarvan, Amumu etc), more reliable in early ganks than they should be. " - Meddler

You're ruining Shyvana jungle for me, chilling smite is the only reason why Shyvana's ganks are successful and towards late game it's more useful for her because she can catch up to the enemy by slowing them down and killing them, but now since you are nerfing the range of smite you're only making Shyvana useless in ganking. How do you expect me to catch the enemy now? I can't just run up to them, they will only slow me down and I'll have nothing to slow them down back with.

18 Comments

SlytherinUmbreon14 votes

I like how they're still using Amumu as an example of an overbearing Jungler. Are they even trying to pretend these changes are fair anymore?

Chessburger3 votes

Yeah the amumu pretence is amusing. They still haven't reverted his "pre-emptive" nerf to W that was just there because why not.

Fried Noob8 votes

Yea, this is a very questionable change. Makes life harder for champs like Shyvana and Udyr , who needed chilling smite to get close at all. Does fuck all to champs like LeeSin and JarvanIV , who can get close enough for the range nerf to not matter at all.

SubliminalBliss4 votes

i swear riot is the best example of the saying ''1 step forward 2 steps back''. its like when they talk about diversity i get a headache, so uh in order for more diverse builds and play were gonna just take away other diverse builds and play cause yea.

19 19 194 votes

Like can't riot GIVE shyvana some kind of utility or buff that allows her to be more Viable when it comes to ganking? That smite was truly the only thing that got me kills early game. Now when I'm ganking bot lane graves will be able to dash away safely with super low health it's like they are forcing me to play Lee Sin or Jarvan for jungle BUT I DON'T WANT TO FUCKING PLAY FREELO CHAMPIONS.

Thanks Riot ~

youngjake932 votes

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Like can't riot GIVE shyvana some kind of utility or buff that allows her to be more Viable when it comes to ganking? That smite was truly the only thing that got me kills early game. Now when I'm ganking bot lane graves will be able to dash away safely with super low health it's like they are forcing me to play Lee Sin or Jarvan for jungle BUT I DON'T WANT TO FUCKING PLAY FREELO CHAMPIONS.

Thanks Riot ~

-doesn't want to play good junglers -is mad when their jungler gets worse

You should be happy that Shyvanna will now be further from freelo than ever before.

Narasimha1 votes

Because Shyvanna was never meant to be a good ganker. Her strength has always been about her insane clear time, and her weakness was her inability to gank until atleast level 6. Ganking power is completely irrelevant to her.

Troy2426213 votes

Actually by reducing its range you make it ONLY useful for offensive dash junglers, and nerf it for everyone else. Riot makes me wonder sometimes.

19 19 193 votes

MEDDLER, I WANT A SOLUTION TO THIS.

19 19 192 votes

like its unfair man

Retillin1 votes

Play Lee Sin.

19 19 1918 votes

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Play Lee Sin.

Not a fan of freelo champs

not a starburst2 votes

Heresy!

What Is Smite2 votes

Blasphemy!!

Tin Tarantino2 votes

Antidisestablishmentarianism!!!

Kowe The Ewok1 votes

How about they nerf the god damn velocity on Lee's Q already?

Problem solved. And you finally don't have to nerf ALL junglers just because your favorite abuses it to well.

I can recall making a topic with more than 100 upvotes - and Riot ignored it. It's one of the fastest projectiles ingame, if it misses it's Lee's fault in 95% of all cases. You can attempt to juke him, but active dodging is close to impossible.

DrCyanide1 votes

The junglers with strong ganking potential took the item that makes ganks even stronger. Therefore, everyone who needed the item that makes ganks stronger to get reasonable ganks is now going to be punished.

These "change the item rather than nerf every champion" changes sounded good at first, but now I'm wondering if there will ever be a point where we'll see a 25% pick rate on them all. Unless we do, then these items are not working as intended.

aperson11 votes

Dude lay off on the italics. No Rioter is going to respond to your post if reading it makes their eyes bleed.

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