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Why getting autofilled to support is so frustrating

An Undead brat·Dec 22, 2016·6 votes·2,262 views

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If you get autofilled to any role that you are not best in, there's still chance that you won't feed as helland can farm up to be actually somewhat able to defend your team and at least zone enemies a bit from your turrets by clearing waves etc. But when you get autofilled to support AND it's not your best role, not only that you can't play it good enough to make plays and at least try to protect your dumb, always pushing while simultanously feeding (or not able to play safe; what you please) ADC, but you can't even do anything other. You don't have waveclear, you can't go to ward, nothing. Support has so low impact on a game at this point, that it becomes nothing that running around the map, while desperately shielding suiciding allies, while enemies don't even need to thing about retreating scared by your own damage, that you could offer in any other role - and that is SO frustrating.

This of course won't happen in higher divisions because people there know how to play safe, but guess which Elo has higher queue timers that are supposed to be fixed by autofill because there are not so many players?

At this point there's one player in an impactful role that goes AFK and now you're absolutely fucked because again, while I'm sure there are many support mains that could, you can't do nothing, because you're just autofilled scrub that barely ever touches this role.

If you have a bad luck, the every single time you get autofilled as support with these kinda teams, you just need to accept your lose - if this is not toxic ranked environment, I don't know what is.

22 Comments

Tukan TonkoDec 22, 20163 votes

This is funny, because I never had this issue, to be honest. Whenever I get autofilled I am fine with it and actually, I won many games in autofilled role, more than I lost. I even change with autofilled supports if they don't feel comfortable or if I don't feel comfortable. And no, I don't main support. But I did mained Leona in S3 or so. Even if my ADc is bad, I pick support that I know I can do something to help my ADc to get kills, survive the lane or don't get too far behind - Janna. And that was in silver this season.

I think that the problem is, you named it, that players don't even touch the role and that's just bad. You know you can get autofilled and you most certainly WILL be autofilled and you will get support 90% of the time. So why not to put some effort into role to learn how to itemize, how to play that role, what and what not to do. Support is not that hard if you want to be decent. Knowledge is a must, at the very least, and you will have easier time while autofilled.

Also, if you consider this toxic, what about season 1,2,3 when we weren't so lucky to chose our role, when the only thing we had was pick order thingy. How many people were crying about this? Because it has something as autofill as well. If you are unlucky you are last to pick and you are forced to fill anything that left for you, and you guessed it, it was support. Autofill is always there. People just became lazy just because they can now pick their lanes. Come on, really.

An Undead bratDec 22, 20161 votes

The 1st, 2n and 3rd season pick was not accurate to your actual deserved rank, too, imho.

Tukan TonkoDec 22, 20161 votes

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The 1st, 2n and 3rd season pick was not accurate to your actual deserved rank, too, imho.

It's not accurate even now and it never will be. Ranks will never reflect your real skill. That's why I don't judge people by their ranks.

An Undead bratDec 22, 20161 votes

I agree at some point, but when you look around the divisions, the skill it always pretty equal... I actually believe that most Silver players are the same level as gold ones but they just happen to be unlucky most of the time and get bronzies in their teams, unlike those who made it to gold, who had equal teammates and worse enemies... I know this could be aplied to all ranks and I have no statistics to prove it, it's just my feeling.

RossoniousDec 22, 20162 votes

I love playing against autofilled supps

An Undead bratDec 22, 20161 votes

Fml

khorneyDec 22, 20162 votes

I can really careless where I go... I supp last game on my match history and yes I play supp malz because his passive pretty much negates most Champs on both lane and a instant stun is op... however my adc never followed up on my ultimate when I pinged and then he literally ran down lane nonstop and fed and was like gg noobs I'm worthome no gold.....this is why people hate supp.. then I'll get adc and the supp I get is just stupid most of the time or the jungle the never ganks and there's does.....

An Undead bratDec 22, 20161 votes

And as support you don't have enough gold for AP items to carry instead of them by your own damage and there's the source of frustration.

khorneyDec 22, 20161 votes

I take scaling ap runes . And combo sights tone. Or I'll get frost queens and Ruby. I'll reach like 500 plus most of the time.

OctaviaDec 22, 20162 votes

This of course won't happen in higher divisions because people there know how to play safe, but guess which Elo has higher queue timers that are supposed to be fixed by autofill because there are not so many players?

higher elos are also far more aggressive and punish any autofill supports badly so actually it applies at all elos, other than that you are right

if this is not toxic ranked environment, I don't know what is.

it's most certainly toxic that's for sure.

riot sacrificed game quality as a quick fix for queue times, awful and disastrous move, I have no interest in ever playing league again unless riot change this.

bad arcade kittyDec 23, 20161 votes

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higher elos are also far more aggressive and punish any autofill supports badly so actually it applies at all elos, other than that you are right

it's most certainly toxic that's for sure.

riot sacrificed game quality as a quick fix for queue times, awful and disastrous move, I have no interest in ever playing league again unless riot change this.

if you can't remain at your current elo because you lose your auto-filled support games it means you don't deserve your current elo

simple as that

you can stay mad

OctaviaDec 23, 20161 votes

if you can't remain at your current elo because you lose your auto-filled support games it means you don't deserve your current elo

No it doesn't, because I will win the majority of the other games and KEEP the elo or even climb, only 1/10 games I will have no fun at all and feed, complete fundamental misunderstanding. I could quite easily retain mid plat as I still win about 50% of games at that level even with the auto lose auto fill support. But losing 1/10 games by default in a role I hate playing is NOT fun, and lack of FUN is the issue here, this is a toxic experience and there is no enjoyment to be had playing it.

And autofill increases queue times because so many people skip.

So... doesn't fix the thing it's meant to fix, lowers game quality to rock bottom and makes people tilted and angry. Is that working well?

simple as that

no it's not as simple as that at all and if you can't see that I know what is actually simple, you.

you can stay mad

yeah needless provocation meanwhile you hide your bronze main behind an unranked alt, ok.

Wild WesDec 22, 20161 votes

Twitch's first item is BORK. YIKES no wonder you lost bot lane.

An Undead bratDec 22, 20161 votes

Trust me that was the smallest problem.

khorneyDec 22, 20161 votes

Umm that's actually standard on twitch...

Wild WesDec 22, 20161 votes

Uh nope LMAO. It's best to go item 3085 first.

DarkRitualDec 22, 20161 votes

Support has low impact? Shhh, don't let my match histroy know.

It's all about who you play and how much you actually understand the champs and role. You can always ward, but sometimes you need to make openings to do so. They won't always fall into your lap.

An Undead bratDec 22, 20161 votes

I did not mean low overall, but you just can't solocarry if all of your teammates do nothing, because you are in most cases not able to keep enemies from your objectives, because without damage it's largely impossible to die if they just go and take the turret, so you can't just freeze until your allies have enough items to kill them too so you can carry as support. Am I clear now?

RossoniousDec 22, 20161 votes

support items are amazing at carrying the game right now, they do so much. cleanses, shields, dmg reduction, AOE heal/dmg, sivir ults, turbo slows, if you aren't finding the weakest member on the enemy team and then bending them over for a random ass scrub teammate than you're getting raped in lane and falling behind too quick. Once you get the snowball rolling your movement around the map is so freaking fast cuz of mobi boots and most supp abilities that your like some bullshit angel of death the whole enemy team hates and just runs away from. If the game is going well you can carry like a maniac just like any other position :)

And just like any position you can be carrying and still have a toxic/afk/bad team and lose. Just play the game people!

An Undead bratDec 22, 20161 votes

Why is noone getting that it's about the feeling from it? OF FUCKING COURSE you have some impac, if not, noone would play like that, but compared to other roles you just have SO much less impact, that's a fact, because damage is what defines this game, every utility is useless if you have 0 damage., you can't stun people for hours on the same spot and hope they're going to surrender out of boredom.

I'm speaking about the frustration that autofill brings, and that's that you did not chose the role, it's the game that put you in spot where you're 100 reliable on your teammates. If your ADC runs to the middle of your enemy team, what use is your shield? He gets destroyed anyway and so later you get too. If you have the damage, you can kill them while your retarded support is getting killed, that's the difference!

Why is everyone so ignorant and reads what whey want to instead of what is there? That's also frustrating.

bad arcade kittyDec 23, 20161 votes

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Why is noone getting that it's about the feeling from it? OF FUCKING COURSE you have some impac, if not, noone would play like that, but compared to other roles you just have SO much less impact, that's a fact, because damage is what defines this game, every utility is useless if you have 0 damage., you can't stun people for hours on the same spot and hope they're going to surrender out of boredom.

I'm speaking about the frustration that autofill brings, and that's that you did not chose the role, it's the game that put you in spot where you're 100 reliable on your teammates. If your ADC runs to the middle of your enemy team, what use is your shield? He gets destroyed anyway and so later you get too. If you have the damage, you can kill them while your retarded support is getting killed, that's the difference!

Why is everyone so ignorant and reads what whey want to instead of what is there? That's also frustrating.

gosh, just play support brand, velkoz, annie, morgana, zyra, sona, even lux and do your tons of damage

bad arcade kittyDec 23, 20161 votes

got autofilled support picked karma instead of, say, soraka complains

lol

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