What's The Counterplay To Warwick And Malzahar's Ultimate?

MXXXXXL··2 votes·1,043 views

The only information Lolcounter.com can give me is buying item 3102, but it has a 40 second cooldown and can be popped by his other abilities.

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EndlessSorcerer6 votes

item 3140

Rustling Bush1 votes

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item 3140

Last game had a zed get a qqs, guess what happened when the malzhar ulted?

Amélie Cauchemar1 votes

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Last game had a zed get a qqs, guess what happened when the malzhar ulted?

So they madeit so the only thing that stops suppression is banshees lol. GJ RIOT

KVbqbFsC8e3 votes

QSS

MXXXXXL1 votes

QSS doesn't stop suppresses.

ModWulf Helhammer2 votes

Yeah it does.

Quepha3 votes

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QSS doesn't stop suppresses.

You're thinking of cleanse.

Ozag the Mighty1 votes

Hopefully there is a CC class to knock them up, stun, or silence.

Grashnim1 votes

Lulu item 3222

Dominick Destine2 votes

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item 3222

[zombie-brand-clap]

Amélie Cauchemar1 votes

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Lulu item 3222

Mikaels doesnt work on supression. Nor does cleanse, and im 90% certainthe new quick silver doesn't either.

GaleWinUnleashed1 votes

Those work fine, it's just tenacity that doesn't affect it.

Quepha1 votes

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Those work fine, it's just tenacity that doesn't affect it.

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Mikael's_Crucible Mikael's does not work. http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/developer-corner/R8IzYt9i-qss-mercurial-change-for-69 New QSS still works on suppressions.

Irelia Bot2 votes

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Lulu item 3222

That item does not stop suppression. Trust me I tried it just to make sure.

Now QSS on the other hand should still removed it even after 6.9 hits live since it is a CC debuff.

x R e n g a R x1 votes

QSS is the counter play.

Not hard.

Akali is SO HOT1 votes

Have your Alistar press Q or W

Irelia Bot1 votes

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Have your Alistar press Q or W

but what if it is the AP Ali being suppressed?

Quepha1 votes

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but what if it is the AP Ali being suppressed?

Have your Garen press Q

Irelia Bot1 votes

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Have your Garen press Q

What if it is Malz ulting Ali and WW ulting Garen while leblanc is bitching about no more silence the Riven went AFK and your Cait did not take a single level in traps for some reason?

Quepha2 votes

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What if it is Malz ulting Ali and WW ulting Garen while leblanc is bitching about no more silence the Riven went AFK and your Cait did not take a single level in traps for some reason?

Have LeBlanc burst Malzahar down during his channel while Garen lols as Warwick's ult takes him from a full 100% health to a dangerously low 87% health, report Riven for going afk and contemplate why you mentioned Caitlyn since her traps are not particularly relevant in this situation.

Irelia Bot1 votes

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Have LeBlanc burst Malzahar down during his channel while Garen lols as Warwick's ult takes him from a full 100% health to a dangerously low 87% health, report Riven for going afk and contemplate why you mentioned Caitlyn since her traps are not particularly relevant in this situation.

But what if this is non damage support Leblanc?

Quepha1 votes

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But what if this is non damage support Leblanc?

Then they get what they deserve.

Surr20plz1 votes

Doesn't QSS cleanse the lock down but you still take the dmg?

BeatzBoyFTW1 votes

Current patch: item 3140 Next patch: GG

Irelia Bot1 votes

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Current patch: item 3140 Next patch: GG

It is a CC debuff so it should still work once 6.9 hits However if you are trying to stop the malz ult damage you have to run away after using this active.

Quepha1 votes

Stay out of their range, or at least don't be in a position where they can ult you without getting immediately destroyed by your team.

Banshee's Veil and QSS aren't actually counterplay, they're just counters.

Dehitay1 votes

Malzahar and Warwick's ults are supposed to take advantage of lone or mislocated champions. For Warwick who is a jungler, keep your side of the map warded so he can't surprise you during the laning phase and then just stick with your team during the teamfight phase and his ult can be knocked off of you. For Malzahar who's a laner, the same advice is true for the teamfight phase, but the laning phase is tricky as it's a bit more 1 on 1. The real trick is to stay away from him until your jungler shows up for a gank and then see if you can bait him into using it and getting punished by a gank.

Of course if you're team didn't bring any silences, stuns, knock ups, or knock backs, you're just as screwed as being against a Yi with no hard CC.

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