Why Are There No Spell Vamp Items?

Ah O Yeah Harder·May 28, 2017·1 votes·8,846 views

Other than , I dont think there are any other spell vamp items. Why arent there many?

29 Comments

Slack KingMay 28, 20179 votes

Vladimir

crzymdscntstMay 28, 20173 votes

Mordekaiser Katarina Kennen Akali

... basically anyone who was a manaless spellcaster.

AhristocatsMay 28, 20171 votes

back in season 2, Kennen Rumble Vladimir were the reason spellvamp got gutted and left garbage until it was removed morde and akali weren't strong (except akali in low elo solo queue)

that's what happens when you don't give mana to spellcasters

NiyumiMay 28, 20177 votes

"Spellvamp is toxic! When a mage gets caught out of position and takes damage in a teamfight, and then heals up between fights... how unbearably broken! Forget the fact that ADCs do just that 15 times better."

morris1May 28, 20171 votes

Really though, it was only bought by a handful of champions and created lots of balance problems. So instead of bothering to work around it they removed the items and gave champions that bought it better built in healing.

NiyumiMay 28, 20174 votes

Really really though, it's another double standard of Riot's. We have so many AD champs that are actual gods because of lifesteal, yet we nerf and then rework Vlad and Morde because their healing + damage was "toxic" and they were "little more than walking balls of stats". They "either automatically won or did nothing."

Yet all the reasons Riot claimed to have removed spellvamp can be applied to just about any AS AD champ. But it's okay, because ADCs are the most profitable class.

morris1May 28, 20171 votes

If lifesteal was only bought by 1 or 2 ADCs it would get removed too. Why complain about removal of spellvamp as though Vlad and Morde aren't healing enough already.

NiyumiMay 28, 20172 votes

Because the same reasons they removed spellvamp apply to ADCs and lifesteal, yet lifesteal is still in the game and being buffed every patch for no good fucking reason.

And I'm tired of ADCs being the strongest champs in the game. Least effort, greatest reward.

Daddy BraumMay 28, 20173 votes

Isn't the hextech gunblade technically a spellvamp item as it heals for like 15% the damage you do?

Pika310Nov 30, 20172 votes

Nothing "technically" about it. Gunblade does in fact have both 15% Spellvamp and 15% Lifesteal, just like it always has had both. Just without the keywords being tagged onto it like they should be, like they used to be.

KhâmulMay 28, 20173 votes

item 3146 (for all damages) item 3812 (for physical damages including physical spells)

Ah O Yeah HarderMay 28, 20171 votes

Ah, so lets say i play jayce. Does that mean if I take all spell vamp runes/masteries, and built (with maw activated) item 3156 item 3146 item 3812 item 3065 , then i would have about 66.24 spell vamp?

Sp33d Zer0May 28, 20171 votes

I'd have to do the math, but I think it would be somewhat close to that. Very troll build though and wouldn't have THAT much damage.

Sp33d Zer0May 28, 20173 votes

They removed them in the mage update because they were very unhealthy and made it hard to balance champs with spell vamp in their kits. item 3146

LyingOnLineMay 28, 20172 votes

Spell Vamp as a purchasable stat just didn't work.

CatSithMay 28, 20172 votes

It was too niche for some champions and they were balanced around it. That wasn't healthy for the game.

EedatMay 28, 20172 votes

item 3146

Pika310Nov 30, 20172 votes

item 3146 Still has Spellvamp item 3812 Has half-Spellvamp item 2140 Has half-Spellvamp

Gear KittyNov 30, 20172 votes

item 3146 Is Omni-Vamp, not Spell Vamp item 3812 Is Phys-Vamp, not Spell Vamp item 2140 Is Phys-Vamp, not Spell Vamp.

Omni is all the damage you deal to enemies factors into you healing. Physical Vamp is only for Physical damage (Autos and Phys damaging Abilities).

There hasn't been a Spell Vamp item since we lost my bestest friend, WotA.

I will miss you, maximum life drain Teemo. Your soaring journey brought you too close to the sun, and hubris was your undoing.

Pika310Nov 30, 20172 votes

Spell-Vamp heals from ALL ABILITIES. True damage, magic damage **AND **physical damage. Lifesteal heals from basic attacks, including magic-damage basic attacks like Corki.

Spellvamp and Lifesteal do **NOT **refer to the type of damage that you are doing. They refer to HOW you are doing that damage. Spellvamp used to heal from summoner spells, hence why Lee Sin would re-cast W before casting Smite, a true damage ability, until they removed that interaction. Ahri's original Spellvamp passive healed her for the true damage she dealt.

Thusly, Gunblade still has Spellvamp, not some "omni-vamp" bullshit that player X imagined out of thin air. Yes the other two have "physical vamp," but I already stated it was "half-vamp." Same fucking difference.