Why Has Riot Done Nothing To Draven Yet?
Nerf this champion already. 1 auto doing 1k damage when he has 11 kills. DD makes it to where he takes no damage with all the lifesteal he gets back.
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when he has 11 kills.
I think I found your problem.
Tbh, Death's Dance is probably the biggest reason why Draven's fucking overbearing atm. That shit needs a nerf.
Though I'm not saying that there isn't a problem in Draven, there is, but on the flip side, the only thing he's good for is damage. I wouldn't completely nerf his damage; maybe take a small hit on it, increase mana costs on Q to punish the Dravens that don't catch axes, and maybe, make it a bit harder to catch axes.
Edit: Forgot to mention that he's perma ban for me, and he's staying that way until at least Death's Dance sees some changes.
1 auto doing 1k damage when he has 11 kills.
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Are we acting like Draven didn't do this before?
Because riot wants to have over stuffed champs like draven and lb floating around, but because they aren't extremely popular, they don't need to nerf them.
11kill draven would indicate a FED ADC and he dont simply auto , its an empowered auto with his spinning axe and if you dont have armor vs a 11 kill draven , the fact that you let a draven get to 11 kills IS BAD ON YOU not the champ
well 11 kills is nothing right? I mean who can even get strong after 11 kills lmao?
You stated it, death dance... not Draven... Draven is on the weak spot, remove Death dance and he go back to his line. Death dance is buffed, not Draven. He is fine.
If the Draven has 11 kills you deserved to be getting hit for 1k
they need to make his Q bonus damage not apply lifesteal. I think that'd be good enough.
in your game that you are crying over draven whos team included a jayce with black cleaver, j4 with black cleaver
not one of the players on your team stacked armor vs a tripple ad threat of 
It's 35% Draven is strong 65% Death's Dance is unbelievably broken. Fiora builds it and can't die, Illaoi builds it and can't die, Graves has built it ever since it was released and he can't die; it's broken.
his most recent buff was like more than a year ago how come he now suddenly needs to nerfed ? it's totally not the recent DD buffs, yeah nerf the champ because an item is op
is the problem, it's making the normally easily killed Draven incredibly tanky.
You know how most damage dealers can kill an ADC within a second or so? Or within the duration of their own CC? DD makes it so that's not so anymore.
DD, which makes the ADC not die during the small window they are stunned, allows Draven to heal back up, his ability to lifesteal being how he managed to survive before despite being incredibly telegraphed.
Draven is not the issue, it's the cancer that is new DD.
Sadly it's not draven only. there are lots of champs that end up impossible to kill after they get a lead or a kill only 
but hey. "high skill champ so i deserve to be broken"
The flaw in your logic is the "When he has 11 kills" that is Draven's ENTIRE design. He is based solely around his passive mechanic which allows him to snowball. Not to mention, his axes are his balancing point. His Q has a high mana cost and is easy to lose stack, specially in lane. His lane push is hindered by only being able to keep up his Q at a particular rate. Draven isn't overbearing. His team fight is strong, his waveclear is subpar, his tower taking is eh, his DPS is fabulous but caitlyn and lucian easily outsrip his mobility and burst potential. Draven is designed to get ahead. A fed Draven is, AND SHOULD BE a win consition. That is his entire design
Well I don't have a problem with Draven, he's perma banned in my games. Honestly, he's unfun to play against, and unhealthy. One kill and he takes over the entire game, that's just not fair, no other champion can completely take over a game after one kill.