I Like The New Banning System

Ah O Yeah Harder·Jun 6, 2017·128 votes·3,598 views

The times are so much faster than having to wait 5 minutes for everyone to choose their bans, and I get to ban the champion I hate every game. Thanks Riot.

85 Comments

MicbranJun 6, 201737 votes

Blasphemy! Only dissent is allowed on these boards!

Ah O Yeah HarderJun 6, 201757 votes

Oh, I mean...

I hate the new banning system. They ban my champion every game. Rito wtf, remove this. How am I supposed to do other things that are not related to league while in the pre-game lobby? It only takes 30 seconds to get throught the banning phase, thats not enough time for me to take out my dog. Rito plz.

DreampodJun 6, 201734 votes

Excellent work. You'll fit in well around here.

Mira Arya EntheJun 7, 20172 votes

Ayyyy people are starting to get it.

Velzard of KozJun 7, 20171 votes

Only dissent is allowed here while his post has 76 upvotes and is on front page. Indeed. Negativity and ranting is the only way to get upvotes. Also, ranting about negativity and ranting.

MicbranJun 8, 20171 votes

you must be fun at parties

Arcus DiabolusJun 6, 201712 votes

I kinda want the ban quotes back tho...

If nothing else, give us the pick quotes when someone selects the champion they want and play if for everyone. These quotes made the champion select screen more interactive and fun.

Ah O Yeah HarderJun 8, 20171 votes

At the end of the banning, all 10 bans should say their quotes at the same time. Thatd be funny

Troll for TrumpJun 7, 20177 votes

Darius has been banned 7 games in a row now..

LexyyJun 7, 20178 votes

Love it

Mira Arya EntheJun 7, 20171 votes

Darn shame. Glad Riven is never ban with her 4% ban rate ^_^

Troll for TrumpJun 7, 20171 votes

I still don't get why people hate Darius. He's at a roughly 50% winrate but with a 20% banrate, and he's easily kitable. Even just saw someone joking about how Panth and Renek were easier to deal with than Dar.

He's supposed to be a noobstomper, but his winrate with only plat+ statistics is actually higher than global statistics on leagueofgraphs.

I had to wade through 10 games with Darius being banned; the next game I got him, but it was remade. I FINALLY got him again 8 games later.

Not sure if I should make a Darius hate thread.

People seem to hate Panth, Zac, and Fiora more than him currently.

SnakDatSmilesBakJun 8, 20171 votes

Not sure why anyone would make any kind of hate thread

Troll for TrumpJun 8, 20171 votes

Too late, already made it

SnakDatSmilesBakJun 8, 20171 votes

Thought u meant something else

dim2aJun 6, 20176 votes

My big complaint with it is that 15 seconds is waaaay too short to figure out team comp, and after they are up, you can no longer float your pick until ban phase is over. So this reduced the amount of time to figure out team comp. In old one you effectively had ~45 seconds (you could still float, and it could take up to 30 seconds for first person on your team to bad). 15 seconds for new one is way too short.

SauceyapplesJun 7, 20175 votes

Remember back in the day when we didn't get our role? Yeah, I miss those days, too.

not

Shadowfang TC Jun 7, 20172 votes

Remember back in the day when you got first pick every match and chose who to ban? Ah that was the life.

SauceyapplesJun 8, 20171 votes

Wouldn't that have meant you were the lowest elo on the team every time? Kappa

Shadowfang TC Jun 8, 20171 votes

I'm pretty sure that's not how it worked... I just have insane luck. Anytime I wasn't first pick someone either dodged or I ended up getting my lane cause someone didn't want it. It's odd that with the new system I get my preferred lane much less often even though it's sole purpose was to give people their desired lane most of the time. Oh well, some people are still nice and trade once in a while.

58697132DEL1Jun 6, 20174 votes

Right? told all those whiner threads they were overreacting.

I'd like to see an infographic type post on how bans shape up after a few months from whatever Rioter handles that sortta thing.

Ah O Yeah HarderJun 6, 20176 votes

Right? told all those whiner threads they were overreacting.

Yeah, I never understand those threads. They don't even give them a chance, they just go straight to the "I don't like this" without trying it out.

TheSingularityJun 7, 201711 votes

It was primarily due to it not being what many interpreted or hoped it was going to be.

The original view was near identical to what pro play has and what many players seem to have wanted. 10 champions that will be perma banned. Gone, deleted, thrown into the abyss. IMO this would basically force riot to act and fix w/e is causing their ban rate until players start banning for their lane (not what's broken/unfun). I mean, what's a better indication of a stupid champ than a banrate over 50%? By fixing said champions, more and more champions would end up perma banned as fixed champs return to play, until all of them were fixed. Then finally people would ban counter picks and strategic bans rather than "gtfo" bans.

These are mostly circle jerk champs or those infamously disliked due to their play style/kit. Nonetheless many seem to have wanted something along the lines of these champions completely gone. Ahri Caitlyn Yasuo LeeSin Graves Fizz Fiora Pantheon Katarina Blitzcrank Most are relentlessly complained about on the boards and personally, the only one's I don't have issues with are kat and blitz. The rest just ain't fun to deal with.

Since this isn't the case, hostility arose in that "10 bans" turned into 5-7 bans which was likely underwhelming or a let down as many state something along the lines of "IDGAF how long I have to wait, as long as the teams are even" in regards to match making and probs share this mentality with bans. They'd gladly take 5 minutes to ban champs. (personally I'd get bored)

Mira Arya EntheJun 7, 20171 votes

Actually Yasuo only has a 12% ban. Highest in the game is Zac at 64% because tanks are innocent and weak.

Velzard of KozJun 7, 20174 votes

According to OP.gg, Fizz is the highest with 56%, followed by Yasuo with 48% across the board. According to lolgraphs, Fizz is still the highest with 60%, followed by Zac with 54% and Yasuo with 47%, possibly across the board.

Mira Arya EntheJun 7, 20174 votes

You are EUNE I am NA.

Mafioso TwitchJun 7, 20174 votes

Still not enough bans to stop the huge amount of cancer champions in this shit game.

Pater GascoigneJun 7, 20174 votes

Your name though :/

YambrinZJun 7, 20171 votes

Lolz.

Mafioso TwitchJun 13, 20171 votes

As i told mike, "If you truly believe twitch is broken you're more then likely gold or lower."

mikemcpartyJun 7, 20171 votes

You see the irony in this right?

Mafioso TwitchJun 13, 20171 votes

If you truly believe twitch is broken you're more then likely gold or lower.

mikemcpartyJun 14, 20171 votes

You realize that the "brokenness" of a champion is completely arbitrary right?

MSU KyrieJun 7, 20174 votes

The only problem I have so far is the lack of ability to respond to a ban with a ban. As a support main, I find it quite irritating to see that after the bans go by, the enemy team banned MissFortune and then first picks Zyra . Blind bans allow literally zero counterplay to what the enemy team might be thinking.

Lets also think, for another example, that the enemy team bans Fiora in a normal draft. Before 10 bans, the typical (in higher elos) response is that the toplane wants to pick Galio , so you either deny the enemy team and first pick Galio , or ban it in response. Blind bans eliminates this counterplay in champion select and needs to be addressed.

AkesgerothJun 7, 20173 votes

I also much prefer this. It was about time we got 10 bans, and it makes draft pick go much quicker.

Morgan le FeyJun 7, 20173 votes

I love the ban time reduction.

I hate the loss of mind games.

I miss rubbing my hands together and cackling when I counter-ban Thresh to their Morg ban.

I'm looking forward to hopefully some sort of 5-man team ranked coming back with pro-style bans? Please? :D

SnakDatSmilesBakJun 7, 20172 votes

Mindgames are one of the few things that we lost with the new system. Otherwise it's almost strictly better.

Would you mind a 3-5 minutes ban period if pro-style bans were implemented?

Morgan le FeyJun 7, 20172 votes

In team ranked? Not at all. In norms? Definitely. That's sorta my point: solo and team games are fundamentally different in pick/ban, and it'd be amazing if we could treat them as such. It's hardly a necessity, but I think it'd be a much more enjoyable game on both sides in that case.

HaIlMonitorJun 8, 20171 votes

It would more likely be an 8 minute ban...

deadlychuckJun 8, 20171 votes

Idk if you can reasonably attribute it being "strictly better" to the new system though.

The cut down on ban times was still possible without the new system, maybe to not quite the same degree, by just make 2 ban phases for each team (A ban 2, B ban 2, A ban 3, B ban 3) instead of 3 independent bans on each team.

Otherwise the increase to the average number of bans would've change anyway and every player on each team would've still gotten a personal ban.

SnakDatSmilesBakJun 8, 20171 votes

I said almost strictly better

HäxelJun 8, 20171 votes

But now you can rub your hands together if you extra not banning yasuo knowing the enemy will probably do it and you are right and wasted not a ban/got a free one. Or you rub your hands together cause the enemy thought like that too, didn't ban yasuo and you are a secretly yasuo main.

Morgan le FeyJun 8, 20171 votes

tbh I really don't care about Yasuo. I don't understand why everyone is so obsessed with banning him out. He's pretty easy to stomp most of the time.

HäxelJun 8, 20171 votes

tbh i thought it was clear that for "yasuo" you can put every other champ in there. 1 game i banned zac, ups enemy baned him too. other one i thought about bannign lulu but still baned zac. guess this time enemy baned lulu and not zac. rubed my hands, got the 2 bans i wanted :D